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From: Hayden Simon <h@uber.nz>
To: Eric <evil.function@proton.me>, David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink terminal detector
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 20:46:48 +0000	[thread overview]
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I love how you think



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-----Original Message-----
From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf Of Eric via Starlink
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2022 4:55 am
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink terminal detector

Get a bunch of US$3 ESP8266 devices, set them up in AP mode with spoofed Starlink MACs and BSSIDs, power them with solar cells + old vape-pen batteries and spread them all over the place.  There's nothing like causing the other side to shoot $50k missiles at a $15 decoy.


------- Original Message -------
On Sunday, December 18th, 2022 at 20:49, David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:


> and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as much.
>
> David Lang
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:
>
> > From the beginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or
> > hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions.
> >
> > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a
> > PoE injector or bypassing the Starlink router.
> > Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety.
> >
> > But there are some countermeasures on the way.
> >
> > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, there is nothing special.
> > >
> > > You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a good
> > > directional antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a problem.
> > >
> > > They are filtering Starlink router BSSID to figure out that
> > > somewhere there is Starlink.
> > > Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: prefix).
> > > On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:
> > >
> > > > Starlink detector boasted about... 10km range.
> >
> > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-e
> > nter-testing-in-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.htm
> > l
> >
> > > > I would have figured on starlinks less further front, combined
> > > > with non los radios and ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every
> > > > wifi transmitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for
> > > > directional wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ...
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
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      parent reply	other threads:[~2022-12-19 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-19  2:41 Dave Taht
2022-12-19  3:03 ` Oleg Kutkov
2022-12-19  3:22   ` Oleg Kutkov
2022-12-19  4:49     ` David Lang
2022-12-19 15:54       ` Eric
2022-12-19 16:07         ` Dave Taht
2022-12-19 23:34           ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-12-20  0:46             ` Oleg Kutkov
2022-12-20  0:50               ` Gary E. Miller
2022-12-19 20:46         ` Hayden Simon [this message]

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