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Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 20:47:04 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_ff3de75a-7eab-4e78-bef4-a3f18d808441 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love how you think HAYDEN SIMON UBER GROUP LIMITED MANAGING DIRECTOR - SUPREME OVERLORD E: h@uber.nz M: 021 0707 014 W: www.uber.nz 53 PORT ROAD | PO BOX 5083 | WHANGAREI | NEW ZEALAND -----Original Message----- From: Starlink On Behalf Of Eric v= ia Starlink Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2022 4:55 am To: David Lang Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink terminal detector Get a bunch of US$3 ESP8266 devices, set them up in AP mode with spoofed St= arlink MACs and BSSIDs, power them with solar cells + old vape-pen batterie= s and spread them all over the place. There's nothing like causing the oth= er side to shoot $50k missiles at a $15 decoy. ------- Original Message ------- On Sunday, December 18th, 2022 at 20:49, David Lang via Starlink wrote: > and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as much. > > David Lang > > On Mon, 19 Dec 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: > > > From the beginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or > > hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions. > > > > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a > > PoE injector or bypassing the Starlink router. > > Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety. > > > > But there are some countermeasures on the way. > > > > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: > > > > > Actually, there is nothing special. > > > > > > You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a good > > > directional antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a problem. > > > > > > They are filtering Starlink router BSSID to figure out that > > > somewhere there is Starlink. > > > Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: prefix). > > > On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: > > > > > > > Starlink detector boasted about... 10km range. > > > > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-e > > nter-testing-in-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.htm > > l > > > > > > I would have figured on starlinks less further front, combined > > > > with non los radios and ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every > > > > wifi transmitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for > > > > directional wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ... > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Starlink mailing list > > > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink _______________________________________________ Starlink mailing list Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink ------_=_NextPart_ff3de75a-7eab-4e78-bef4-a3f18d808441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I love how you think


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-----Original Message-----From: Starlink <starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> On Behalf = Of Eric via Starlink
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2022 4:55 am
To: = David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.netSubject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink terminal detector

Get a bunc= h of US$3 ESP8266 devices, set them up in AP mode with spoofed Starlink MAC= s and BSSIDs, power them with solar cells + old vape-pen batteries and spre= ad them all over the place. There's nothing like causing the other sid= e to shoot $50k missiles at a $15 decoy.


------- Original = Message -------
On Sunday, December 18th, 2022 at 20:49, David Lang vi= a Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:


&= gt; and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as= much.
>
> David Lang
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec = 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:
>
> > From the be= ginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or
> >= ; hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions.
> >
&g= t; > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a =
> > PoE injector or bypassing the Starlink router.
> &g= t; Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety.
> >
> = > But there are some countermeasures on the way.
> >
&g= t; > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote:
> > <= br />> > > Actually, there is nothing special.
> > >=
> > > You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a g= ood
> > > directional antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a pro= blem.
> > >
> > > They are filtering Starlink = router BSSID to figure out that
> > > somewhere there is Sta= rlink.
> > > Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: pr= efix).
> > > On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote:=
> > >
> > > > Starlink detector boasted ab= out... 10km range.
> >
> > https://www.notebookcheck= =2Enet/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-e
> > nter-testing-i= n-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.htm
> > l
> >
> > > > I would have figured on starlinks les= s further front, combined
> > > > with non los radios and= ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every
> > > > wifi tran= smitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for
> > > = > directional wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ...> > > >
> > > > __________________________= _____________________
> > > > Starlink mailing list
&= gt; > > > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > > = https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink
>
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