Re: [Starlink] APNIC56 last week

[Gert Doering <gert@space.net>]

Hi,

On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 02:22:58PM +1000, Noel Butler via Starlink wrote:
> Oh I agree it's not a good situation, but my point was it's still most
> dominant 30 years after they claimed we had about 5 years, 

This is not actually a contradiction.

IPv4 *has* run out - but that does not mean (and never meant) "the existing
IPv4 network will stop working over night".

It just means "building new IPv4 networks is way more expensive" and
"doing anything useful with IPv4 heaps up more and more technical dept"
(like, multiple layers of NAT44 inside Enterprise networks).

Moving more actively towards IPv6 would have avoided many of the costs
we're facing today.

> it's like the
> little boy who cried wolf, if they held off the hysterics until it was
> proved imminent, I've no doubt the update would be greater and taken more
> seriously (I've used IPv6 for over 10 years myself), but the global low
> uptake is what causes ISP's and Telco's to use CGNAT, its free and
> plentiful, so it still wont be laid to rest for a while yet.

Well, CGNAT is far from "free".  Have you had a look what vendors charge
for a 100G-capable CGNAT box?

But indeed, IPv6 deployment is still spotty.  Some countries are doing
well (like, Germany, with all major access and mobile providers providing
IPv6 as normal part of the service), others try to ignore it away (Italy)...

Gert Doering
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