From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gatekeeper1-relay.space.net (gatekeeper1-relay.space.net [IPv6:2001:608:3:85::38]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C3613B2A4 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 02:36:49 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=space.net; i=@space.net; q=dns/txt; s=esa; t=1695883009; x=1727419009; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=FHpeq0mWXkZ/ecGlIuFuZxkBTjyz/MKurNQkB9L1Z6M=; b=W4cTd+GxCPPUWXL2rf3R9vzCo50K4p5kuKs9yPR1gW0qvuN9R1N79z1h 5s/5Imjon1/6ZJNezfkBpjDrNS8J0/op4N3M+DFhIfpc6uz6YH+PPmHG/ QxGvoRTIS6Dw1azeTtcvj5g58vV14NfHTJpA50r6vDRRJa1Z5vIhMbDH7 NHauN380ONL2YK3D+B5jJOIn4EZFzAoCqBHHK1of630xTOKltTiVnj7cf xQsqHDwXM99367DAMRG6BWBKxz3H1gPybhkDw3DPO/AIsSkrG1a0hVdQV dTzuyc83gEB6QKAiE9PxS9o6YTEjAX8z9Qcj3tB5raQm53juHpeePlbZu A==; X-SpaceNet-SBRS: None Received: from mobil.space.net ([195.30.115.67]) by gatekeeper1-relay.space.net with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 28 Sep 2023 08:36:47 +0200 Received: from mobil.space.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mobil.space.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A74A42463 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:36:47 +0200 (CEST) X-SpaceNet-Relay: true Received: from moebius4.space.net (moebius4.space.net [IPv6:2001:608:2:2::251]) by mobil.space.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25C21407F6; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:36:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by moebius4.space.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 1C486FFAE; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:36:47 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:36:47 +0200 From: Gert Doering To: Sebastian Moeller Cc: Dave =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=E4ht?= , Dave Taht via Starlink , Rpm , Jamal Hadi Salim , bloat Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Starlink] [Rpm] net neutrality back in the news X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 06:36:49 -0000 Hi, On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 08:25:31AM +0200, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote: > ***) Strictly speaking IPv6 is required, since "internet access" > is defined as reaching all of the internet (as far as in the ISPs > power) and IPv6-only sites are not reachable for the CG-NAT-only > customers. But so far the local regulator does not seem to enforce > that requirement, or hopefully is working on this quietly behind > the curtains. I still maintain that a better google ranking for "content with IPv6" would bring us 90%+ IPv6 availability on the content side in a very short time (look at the craziness some of these SEOs are willing to endure, just to get a better ranking)... (For Germany, I do not see the lone acces ISP without IPv6 as "the most sore spot", as most of the large ISPs and all of the mobile carriers include IPv6 nowadays - but content is still lacking) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279