From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from gatekeeper2-relay.space.net (gatekeeper2-relay.space.net [IPv6:2001:608:2:85::168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D36343CB39 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2023 07:44:35 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=space.net; i=@space.net; q=dns/txt; s=esa; t=1702644276; x=1734180276; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references: mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=4kvCZLZ69ntFESmg8Gjbqa2QR0cd9AvyVq+2g8mm+UA=; b=UjNtkdBZjcVz5weKu9ES7CwGTYG1JMFDhwekJCbOchXe65YokUDgTZZr GoX4Wr3uomWbA8OVC9ybScfNwUgNmTE2Nez4Vbd85Z+l9kenN7N3dMnf+ xfiiBrBo28nGV7okruZ5ug5IMdt6mtriVWuFU3ZbBDUB23YL6WDEIcTZ0 SiNDD6mn77Yfzjqx5i+vLjYAP+yCFZfWJlspZV22oDpqeBH3Mp/HhnmEK uPhzZI0+5HC/Oj2Xn4mBnB1kdthduCuKg1kDCJSGCdWZKFNEQRslyIotm wQnWE/ZbG2IkqMopzjkAtU0WFxgTkkFrqNNRvK8Vph67w9dIVaPGPeamI w==; X-CSE-ConnectionGUID: b8c0T33yRzKmleABbR22QQ== X-CSE-MsgGUID: BMLBn3/vRYSpjKvCKEMmZQ== X-SpaceNet-SBRS: None Received: from mobil.space.net ([195.30.115.67]) by gatekeeper2-relay.space.net with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 15 Dec 2023 13:44:34 +0100 Received: from mobil.space.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mobil.space.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C2D42704 for ; Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:44:33 +0100 (CET) X-SpaceNet-Relay: true Received: from moebius4.space.net (moebius4.space.net [IPv6:2001:608:2:2::251]) by mobil.space.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0B5405EB; Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:44:33 +0100 (CET) Received: by moebius4.space.net (Postfix, from userid 1007) id 94E1EB31C; Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:44:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 13:44:33 +0100 From: Gert Doering To: Alexandre Petrescu Cc: Gert Doering , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: References: <55037f9a-bc2c-4bbb-a4bb-47ad30f16190@rjmcmahon.com> <02cc2879-ef99-4388-bc1e-335a4aaff6aa@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rJ3HdlittnYagxna" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <02cc2879-ef99-4388-bc1e-335a4aaff6aa@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Starlink] [NNagain] FCC Upholds Denial of Starlink's RDOF Application X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2023 12:44:36 -0000 --rJ3HdlittnYagxna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:43:25PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote: > So, a requirement to a competitive satcom would be like 25 Gbit/s.=A0 I t= hink it > is not impossible to make, if many intermediate layers (HAPS, drones etc) > are used, and larger band widths. As was noted upthread, raw bandwith is not the only relevant criteria here (and nobody really *needs* 25 Gbit/s at home, though I'd *love* to have it). gert --=20 have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Em= mer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279 --rJ3HdlittnYagxna Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEruB5jRHVM+CjiYD131bAZeTOf8UFAmV8Si0ACgkQ31bAZeTO f8XG6RAAiusZKaw/oArh9ANUry3FIOQl6JSQgE4zhsnuL9+9zUXgGnBi8XBY89j4 pK4VU5E9OsQRXzM4lWVFcVHwv5FUw1J6hRWo2H/n/QdrJPCQhEpLXZxb/oPdJvaX V5NK/wEicrENwLoB1rIs7wWHcnLBIAGIboe5ElL6u+6PNYrh9AKFlz5rRlo29Tk3 lCwA/CTUZ2gZ1g+pS9KV943FCEvTz4M8udmxzM8xOvNTHDvZ2S1DCeDouTUZgNP2 X3bPW6aFFNrzLAlz9Q+MzY3l6XgI/LB8RiZAsnuIjs8D04NWSmT693ef4YdUdORZ IsT192FY7AB0AuBRJkxrwRGLfvde8Wkk3s2CggWZzuI4/KeefBbygXpim7V+SuC4 tu7e+nBvBU5Nzzd7W2b2exrWvxXjDvdToBIRVPVjpol+ZIR7HM6RIueebD9Enmjy zW+uoNd6rgB1ixMLv6324EqKAgjP/2gwGGcxVIzDfZqtxOdqFXSH6JEtPDhlwg2c 17Mng0v0EEpbEd5xPJRGWcMUyvGjaERIl5OdzbedKEsuly2tG95TCbvcfjHhbV10 WJseoZ/nTUzUnh1xnfHwbZrUNEU/YH2G2rRnXE3Z1dk+pU7MFJAWW2NZPPD6DJgX YdRTs7zE/Nh4MFd2Zt5hWf9tlNE3xwM1Vw2TkjiRAyZ4oBgJO/A= =IYpL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rJ3HdlittnYagxna--