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Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2023 12:27:27 -0000 On 3/29/23 04:28, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote: > Hi Bob, > > >> On Mar 28, 2023, at 19:47, rjmcmahon wrote: >> >> Interesting. I'm skeptical that our cities in the U.S. can get this (str= uctural separation) right. > There really isn't that much to get wrong, you built the access network a= nd terminate the per household fibers in arge enough "exchanges" there you = offer ISPs to lighten up the fibers on the premise that customers can use a= ny ISP they want (that is present in the exchange)... and on ISP change wil= l just be patched differently in the exchange. > While I think that local "government" also could successfully run interne= t access services, I see no reason why they should do so (unless there is n= o competition). > The goal here is to move the "natural monopoly" of the access network out= of the hand of the "market" (as markets simply fail as optimizing resource= allocation instruments under mono- and oligopoly conditions, on either sid= e). We see the same issue in Canada: some provinces and cities happily manage the delivery of services over cables hung from province-owned poles (eg, TCP/IP in New Brunswick). Other provinces did less well, and we have "telephone poles" and "hydro poles" on the same street (in Toronto, Ontario) There is no real difference between New Brunswick, Ontario or, for that matter, Minnesota. If a province or city has operated natural monopolies like the last mile for water and sewer, it can operate the last mile for any other monopoly. --dave -- David Collier-Brown, | Always do right. This will gratify System Programmer and Author | some people and astonish the rest dave.collier-brown@indexexchange.com | -- Mark Twain CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE AND DISCLAIMER : This telecommunication, including a= ny and all attachments, contains confidential information intended only for= the person(s) to whom it is addressed. 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