From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from open.nlnet.nl (open.nlnet.nl [IPv6:2001:67c:6ec:253:145:220:53:132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799483B2A4 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:30:02 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nlnet.nl; s=mail; t=1743625801; bh=r4SEeO0zscvR7fLycW++gIlyN+Eypco93X0uL4mqvj0=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=NBv0oih7ELZAOyQMTJjD2kIiXzMqO0K+/xr5KOXlGZnU+76GmOWEClwRCJtf8adCK GpesNqSTsQju1Y8iop0AlNQapKP99x3ko0S8kL3TnVSh1TxmUROr3g6Jm79uecJpY9 4kR5gNntviW/xdMekpozITNe+3Kj3YXrIgLY/rzk= From: Michiel Leenaars To: "David P. Reed via Starlink" Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Michiel Leenaars , "David P. Reed via Starlink" , "Livingood, Jason" References: <014po62q-r99p-71np-52r1-n84n9np63nqr@ynat.uz> <87plhvlyoc.fsf@toke.dk> <976DC4FC-44CA-4C7E-90E0-DE39B57F01E1@comcast.com> <8DA2934A-43D1-4700-8F32-CA424C3FAE8D@comcast.com> <1743623511.52759201@apps.rackspace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="c2av7b4775vtesba" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1743623511.52759201@apps.rackspace.com> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 06 Jun 2025 06:48:29 -0400 Subject: Re: [Starlink] =?utf-8?q?=5BCake=5D_=5BBloat=5D_In_loving_memory_of_D?= =?utf-8?b?YXZlIFTDpGh0IDwz?= X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 20:30:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 22:30:00 +0200 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 20:30:02 -0000 --c2av7b4775vtesba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Hi David, >2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.) Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official histories. We just missed the deadline for the Internet Hall of Fame by a few days: https://www.internethalloffame.org/2025/01/20/the-internet-hall-of-fame-2025-nominations-are-now-open/ (which features Richard Stallman and Aaron Schwartz already, to be fair) But perhaps someone has nominated him already. Best, Michiel --c2av7b4775vtesba Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQRaBFRMPxh7KuVZuruUh34Y8OwDCgUCZ+2eSAAKCRCUh34Y8OwD Cr9RAQC+DbODlfvqSZaIrG2XskJfyGXCFFkXgCbZxTsxWA6ZqAEA1YtK3MJpMjmF Qucrm3TRLUH6gP0TLH6/Jd80OUojNQY= =czlU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c2av7b4775vtesba--