From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp2.nextlayer.at (smtp2.nextlayer.at [81.16.150.37]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA9853CB38 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 14:01:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.49] (d50-117-141-56.yt.northwestel.net [50.117.141.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.nextlayer.at (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0CD468059B0 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 2021 19:01:49 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.nextlayer.at 0CD468059B0 To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <7907F9D1-9511-4254-BD8F-701888EB6778@onholyground.com> <4ea38008-0e62-1cad-165a-a8aad232ebd6@cs.auckland.ac.nz> <31604.1636124427@localhost> From: Daniel AJ Sokolov Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 11:01:48 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100411 Thunderbird/2.0.0.24 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <31604.1636124427@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Starlink] data sovereignty X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2021 18:01:52 -0000 On 2021-11-05 at 8:00 a.m., Michael Richardson wrote: > A question that was asked was: what is the altitude at which the data has > left the country... That's a good question. The answer may not be in airspace vs. space. (That border is undefined, but if there is not enough air to get downlift, I would say it's not airspace anymore, but space.) One answer may be that the vessel that is routing the data flies under a certain carrier flag. So one could argue that all SpaceX satellites are US flagged, as they obtained their license from the FCC. (Same for OneWeb.) Could there be VPNs creating virtual Canadian territory in cyberspace? Why not, eh! Daniel AJ