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From: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>,
	Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and Iran
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:20:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd2894f9-8bd3-4363-9436-3918f9ae2571@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ba64a41-bbbf-4fb5-adb0-c77c15e4ca0f@gmail.com>

Sorry I've messed up the flow in my client

Jan 15, 2026 5:18:16 PM Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>:

> Jan 15, 2026 3:06:39 PM David Lang <david@lang.hm>:
> 
>> Inemesit Affia wrote:
>> 
>>> Jan 15, 2026 12:17:46 PM David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>:
>>> 
>>>> Authorized or not, starlink service has been turned on in Iran, I would assume that D2C is enabled as well.
>>> 
>>> If it was enabled these people asking for it aren't in the group.
>> 
>> It's been publicly reported that Starlink is active.
> 
> I'm talking about direct to cell. That's what the letter is about. Starlink broadband has been available in Iran since at least Q4 2022.
> 
> 
>> 
>>>> Jamming the D2C signal is far easier than jamming the dishys, all you need is to have the towers running with a stronger signal. (the phones will connect to the tower with the strongest signal). It's also easier to jam the D2C satellites (wider beamwidth and fewer that need to be jammed)
>>> 
>>> True. Hopefully there are free bands somewhere.
>> 
>> D2C only operates on a single band.
> 
> I don't believe this is true
> 
> PCS G Block LTE band 25(1910-1915 MHz & 1990-1995 MHz) is T-Mobile's implementation
> 
> VMO2 1710-1716 UL /MSS  2170-2200 DL (Band 66)
> 
> Softbank 1975-1980 UL / MSS  2170-2200 DL (Band 65)
> 
> DoCoMo 1940-1945 UL / MSS  2170-2200 DL (Band 65)
> 
> KDDI  1920-1925 UL /  MSS 2170-2200 DL (Band 65)
> 
> The tech is capable of 1.6 GHz to at least 2.2 GHz from examples given here. That spans multiple LTE bands. I don't know what else it's capable of. If service is switched off or there are unallocated bands, then there's hope for urban use.
> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> I don't think they would need to get new sims, esims, etc in place, they just need to instruct the satellites to accept any sim rather than only authorized sims.
>>> 
>>> I just don't think this will work. Authorization free 4G.
>> 
>> Why not? just hard code success for the authorization step.
> 
> From what I retained from seminars around the introduction of 4G, the SIM authenticates the network and the network authenticates the Sim using a key stored in the SIM's HSM.
> 
> 911/112 of course excepted
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> In terms of tracking/jamming the dishys normal signal, I think it would be easier to track/jam their wifi signal, those default to SSID STARLINK and will be in a known MAC range. disabling wifi and only working with a wired connection is going to be much safer (admittedly, less convienient, but when they are threatening to kill you if you use a dishy, you should batch upload via a wired connection, not try to livestream the protests, at least, not unless you are truely mobile)
>>> 
>>> I've suggested not using the Wi-Fi router at all. Any phone scanner would probably tell you it's a starlink. SpaceX should change the BSSID's too
>> 
>> The SSID can be set by the user, the MAC address is hard-coded
>> 
>> David Lang
> 
>> 
> MAC's can be changed in software. I've done it on Windows XP and 7 ages ago with smac. I'm sure it's doable on Linux. I remember doing similar with HOSTAPD. 
> 
> Remember how devices rotate MAC addresses for privacy? That requires a method for changing them. It's not like the ROM is overwritten. Once the device is reset, it will go back to default.
> 
> 
>>  

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-15  9:51 [Starlink] Starlink and Iran Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:06 ` [Starlink] " Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:30   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:44     ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 11:16       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:32 ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:51   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 11:17 ` David Lang
2026-01-15 11:59   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2026-01-15 14:08     ` David Lang
2026-01-15 15:29       ` Sauli Kiviranta
     [not found]   ` <3af2ac06-e098-4c79-869d-9c389959ca07@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <q9304244-661o-3qsr-o6rp-9q1nqq09r419@ynat.uz>
     [not found]       ` <4ba64a41-bbbf-4fb5-adb0-c77c15e4ca0f@gmail.com>
2026-01-15 16:20         ` Inemesit Affia [this message]
2026-01-15 20:12   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 17:10 ` J Pan
2026-01-15 20:07   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:47     ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-16  4:18       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  8:12         ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  8:24           ` Inemesit Affia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-01-15 14:50 David Fernández
2026-01-15 16:11 ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-15 17:13   ` J Pan
     [not found] <176849731431.1249.14387618908540773471@gauss>
2026-01-15 17:42 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 18:56   ` Jim Forster
2026-01-15 20:15     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:27   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:30     ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:06       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:09         ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:20           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:23             ` Hayden Simon
     [not found] <176851123059.1249.8585659892308012167@gauss>
2026-01-15 21:49 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 23:15   ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  0:13   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  1:29     ` David Lang
2026-01-16 22:55       ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16 23:06         ` J Pan
     [not found]     ` <13187.1768590201@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2026-01-16 23:30       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-17  0:07         ` David Lang
2026-01-17 21:56           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-19 20:39             ` David Lang
2026-01-28  3:09               ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  3:30                 ` David Lang
2026-01-28  4:02                   ` Mike Puchol
2026-01-28  9:05                     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  9:53                       ` David Lang
2026-01-28 20:43                         ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28 20:55                           ` David Lang
2026-01-17 18:32         ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 18:38           ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-17 19:25             ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 22:12           ` Ulrich Speidel

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