From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net [185.74.65.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6EB833B2A4 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 16:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from proxy-2.proxy.oxio.ns.xion.oxcs.net (proxy-2.proxy.oxio.ns.xion.oxcs.net [83.61.18.4]) by mx-out.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 80DD88C0354; Mon, 14 Feb 2022 21:59:25 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dclux.xion.oxcs.net; s=mail1; t=1644875969; bh=d9qeF8CfTajeY229bEomN8H+dbfIaQLfZV1AvIDsSwQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=gzsNJpURs6GmHBrIZMfR55631iXpNjqw/6iGn66Q10rx8GyysO61aQALh4wa2b8Mp WrrN6qH+Su1WFsnfnxvkue03mujT6ui3sFrLVSK+4QzhL8ESgpdhsYKm6hjEDISa99 1AZaRXgHXpro6l9OawStXBaUSQknTiHWMz+Oo6PCtkgS9oILX4tyb7wO97u9GEmCYm 1aFnIyMBQfybv+lkoRudFZ4tkcTMH1NNO5yA+UqfPbb7siGOqVTgvAcbJSuAz0UlA+ ScO4ikguvTdt7GLgui3rL7plP7zqOClH+H/dLCeVrJ0dkzmxAs/I1y4l3PkCoIfmeJ B4e+UWmCdZ/HQ== Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 22:59:14 +0100 From: Mike Puchol To: Jonathan Bennett Cc: David Lang , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <1p492142-q944-r494-6s6r-p6q37s57qnq4@ynat.uz> <4fafb70b-5d77-4cf4-bb10-b50c0c7c56bd@Spark> X-Readdle-Message-ID: c15e2086-915f-42a4-a89c-244a309e9b6c@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="620ad0bb_7545e146_40fa" X-VadeSecure-Status: LEGIT X-VADE-STATUS: LEGIT Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink Roaming X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 21:59:30 -0000 --620ad0bb_7545e146_40fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Great, let us know. On Thu/=46ri I will receive a second UT for an addres= s that is 150km away from me, if I turn it on here, and it works, we will= have one more indication. Best, Mike On =46eb 14, 2022, 22:53 +0100, Jonathan Bennett , wrote: > I thought it was further out, too. But, Tuck seems to be getting servic= e 100 km away from his registered address. If there isn't more info avail= able in the next 24 hours, I plan to take a drive myself and see what hap= pens when I get outside my cell. > > > On Mon, =46eb 14, 2022 at 3:44 PM Mike Puchol wr= ote: > > > About three weeks ago, I got word from Starlink that anything resem= bling =E2=80=9Ctrue roaming=E2=80=9D was not in the short-terms books, as= it presents many issues. You can move your service address, but you are = not guaranteed to be able to =E2=80=9Ccome back=E2=80=9D, as your slot in= the cell could then be filled by someone on the waiting list. > > > > > > Otherwise, they would need to keep an amount of empty floating slot= s in every cell, which would be wasteful. I anticipate roaming to be a pa= id feature, at least for non-premium plans. > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Mike > > > On =46eb 14, 2022, 21:29 +0100, David Lang , wrote= : > > > > I asked starlink about temp service away from my registered locat= ion, they said > > > > I have two options > > > > > > > > 1. formally change the service location (if approved, guaranteed = to work, but > > > > you aren't guaranteed to be able to change the service location b= ack) > > > > > > > > 2. best effort, set it up and try it. Service may perfect, or may= be worse (all > > > > the way to non-existant) depending on how many other dishes are i= n use in the > > > > area. > > > > > > > > I've done some limited testing with my dish within about 15 miles= of my > > > > registered location (in both cases with less than optimal sky vie= ws) and it's > > > > worked without a hitch. I plan to do a test further away this wee= kend (but in a > > > > less populated area, so I have high hopes) > > > > > > > > David Lang > > > > > > > > On Mon, 14 =46eb 2022, Jonathan Bennett wrote: > > > > > > > > > It appears that there is now a system in place for Starlink to = re-connect > > > > > even if you are outside your official service cell. =46or those= of us who > > > > > want to use Starlink on vacations or other trips, this is quite= the > > > > > development. > > > > > > > > > > --Jonathan Bennett > > > > > > > > > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= > > > > Starlink mailing list > > > > Starlink=40lists.bufferbloat.net > > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --620ad0bb_7545e146_40fa Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Great, let us know. On Thu/=46ri I will receive a s= econd UT for an address that is 150km away from me, if I turn it on here,= and it works, we will have one more indication.

Best,

Mike
On =46eb 14, 2022, 22:53 +0100, Jon= athan Bennett <jonathanbennett=40hackaday.com>, wrote:
I thought it was further out, too. But, Tuck seems t= o be getting service 100 km away from his registered address. If there is= n't more info available in the next 24 hours, I plan to take a drive myse= lf and see what happens when I get outside my cell.

On Mon, =46eb 14, 2022 at= 3:44 PM Mike Puchol <mike=40= starlink.sx> wrote:
About three weeks ago, I got word from Starlink tha= t anything resembling =E2=80=9Ctrue roaming=E2=80=9D was not in the short= -terms books, as it presents many issues. You can move your service addre= ss, but you are not guaranteed to be able to =E2=80=9Ccome back=E2=80=9D,= as your slot in the cell could then be filled by someone on the waiting = list.

Otherwise, they would need to keep an amount of empty floating slots in e= very cell, which would be wasteful. I anticipate roaming to be a paid fea= ture, at least for non-premium plans.

Best,

Mike
On =46eb 14, 2022, 21:29 +0100, Dav= id Lang <david=40lang.hm>, wrote:
I asked starlink about temp service away from= my registered location, they said
I have two options

1. formally change the service location (if approved, guaranteed to work,= but
you aren't guaranteed to be able to change the service location back)

2. best effort, set it up and try it. Service may perfect, or may be wors= e (all
the way to non-existant) depending on how many other dishes are in use in= the
area.

I've done some limited testing with my dish within about 15 miles of my registered location (in both cases with less than optimal sky views) and = it's
worked without a hitch. I plan to do a test further away this weekend (bu= t in a
less populated area, so I have high hopes)

David Lang

On Mon, 14 =46eb 2022, Jonathan Bennett wrote:

It appears that there is now a system in pl= ace for Starlink to re-connect
even if you are outside your official service cell. =46or those of us who=
want to use Starlink on vacations or other trips, this is quite the
= development.

--Jonathan Bennett

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