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Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2024 03:17:31 -0000 --------------9nB80VAIIrpp0jQ298mlKJnH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/06/2024 4:32 pm, Tristan Horn via Starlink wrote: > Not my metrics, but spotted this on Reddit and I'm always a sucker for > Grafana graphs: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/1dd4wjs/i_collected_metrics_on_my_starlink_for_nearly_a/ > > I probably have little relevant to add (I returned my Starlink > terminal in 2023), but the thread inspired me to get some stats going > again myself (using the same ping_exporter > ).  I used to even collect > minutely traceroutes and single-stream TCP throughput ... I've gotten > soft, I guess. The first thing I noticed looking at that graph was that the average latency has been declining over time, with only two discernible "steps". That tells me two things: 1. Steps are generally the consequence of an event. For Starlink, this could be introduction of (different) AQM resulting in lower queue sojourn times. Or it could be different routing / scheduling that results in lower physical path latencies as a result of better paths being chosen. 2. Gradual decline over time is likely to be the result of a longer-term change process. For Starlink, there are two longer term trends that come to mind: customer numbers and satellite capacity. I'd be inclined to suspect the latter is to "blame" for the gradual decline component here. If your Dishy sees more satellites now than a year ago, there's a higher probability that it'll get to talk to a satellite that's closer to both you and the respective gateway. You'd also expect stdev to decline in the case, which again is what we see here. Minimal latency will happen pretty much when the "Starlinks align" to give your ping empty queues with a satellite in near-optimal position to your gateway. Again not surprising that we don't see much of a drop here. -- **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ **************************************************************** --------------9nB80VAIIrpp0jQ298mlKJnH Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 12/06/2024 4:32 pm, Tristan Horn via Starlink wrote:
Not my metrics, but spotted this on Reddit and I'm always a sucker for Grafana graphs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/1dd4wjs/i_collected_metrics_on_my_starlink_for_nearly_a/

I probably have little relevant to add (I returned my Starlink terminal in 2023), but the thread inspired me to get some stats going again myself (using the same ping_exporter).  I used to even collect minutely traceroutes and single-stream TCP throughput ... I've gotten soft, I guess.

The first thing I noticed looking at that graph was that the average latency has been declining over time, with only two discernible "steps". That tells me two things:

  1. Steps are generally the consequence of an event. For Starlink, this could be introduction of (different) AQM resulting in lower queue sojourn times. Or it could be different routing / scheduling that results in lower physical path latencies as a result of better paths being chosen.
  2. Gradual decline over time is likely to be the result of a longer-term change process. For Starlink, there are two longer term trends that come to mind: customer numbers and satellite capacity. I'd be inclined to suspect the latter is to "blame" for the gradual decline component here. If your Dishy sees more satellites now than a year ago, there's a higher probability that it'll get to talk to a satellite that's closer to both you and the respective gateway. You'd also expect stdev to decline in the case, which again is what we see here.

Minimal latency will happen pretty much when the "Starlinks align" to give your ping empty queues with a satellite in near-optimal position to your gateway. Again not surprising that we don't see much of a drop here.

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