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Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 21:54:03 -0000 --------------jpQ5HRHF2uznuT8dQ8N6rjyb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25/05/2023 3:26 am, Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen wrote: > Because of the need for frequent link changes in the Starlink network,=20 > there will be a need for more buffering than your typical (relatively)=20 > static network. Not only because the load changes quickly, but because=20 > the capacity does as well. This causes rapid changes in the=20 > load-to-capacity-ratio, which will cause queues and/or packet loss=20 > unless it's planned /really/ well. I'm not going to say that is=20 > impossible, but it's certainly hard. > All nicely put. That's just the point I was trying to make, albeit as a=20 question not necessarily a conclusion. --=20 **************************************************************** Dr. Ulrich Speidel School of Computer Science Room 303S.594 (City Campus) The University of Auckland u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz =20 http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ **************************************************************** --------------jpQ5HRHF2uznuT8dQ8N6rjyb Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On 25/05/2023 3:26 am, Bj=C3=B8rn Ivar Teigen wrote:
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Because of the need for frequent link changes in the Starlink network, there will be a need for more buffering than your typical (relatively) static network. Not only because the load changes quickly, but because the capacity does as well. This causes rapid changes in the load-to-capacity-ratio, which will cause queues and/or packet loss unless it's planned really well. I'm not going to say that is impossible, but it's certainly hard.

All nicely put. That's just the point I was trying to make, albeit as a question not necessarily a conclusion.

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