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From: Karl Auerbach <karl@cavebear.com>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Intro and a question
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 16:09:08 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1c887e2-08f9-e2fa-1416-c44b74d17075@cavebear.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR03MB3863275718A0C5CDC91B36F9C2E99@BYAPR03MB3863.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>


On 7/26/21 8:51 PM, Larry Press wrote:

> https://spacenews.com/tech-breakthrough-morphs-gigabit-wifi-into-terabit-satellite-internet/ 
> <https://spacenews.com/tech-breakthrough-morphs-gigabit-wifi-into-terabit-satellite-internet/> 

Wow!  I got massive deja vu and thought had to check whether I was 
reading a 1970's copy of the JC Whitney Catalog!

(Or my own CaveBear Catalog - of hyperbolic bogus network stuff: "If we 
have it, you don't need it"), most particularly:

   - Our Press Release from one of the Interop shows, people actually 
believed this!!  Gaga Net: 
https://www.cavebear.com/cb_catalog/techno/gaganet/ )

   - The Maximum Momentum Router: 
https://www.cavebear.com/cb_catalog/current/maxmoment/

(For those who don't remember, the JC Whitnet catalog was filled with 
things for your car that would improve gas milage by a zillion percent 
or bump horsepower by 200hp.  With that catalog one could turn an old 
1200cc VW bug into a flame breathing monster, or so one would if one 
accepted the hyperbole.)

OK, let's accept this guy's claims as true.  Do they make an end-to-end 
difference?

Perhaps if the satellite part of the end-to-end path is truly a bit 
synchronous "bent-pipe".  But Starlink seems to be evolving far past 
that simple bit-clocked-circuit model into something more resembling a 
space internet with routers, or at least a switched network that could 
have issues such as choice of route, multiple inputs feeding into one 
output (in other words, potential congestion).

BTW, I did like the article's phrase "High Definition Internet" - It 
immediately called to mind "Brawndo - it's got electrolytes" (from the 
movie Idiocracy.

	--karl--

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-27 23:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-27  3:51 Larry Press
2021-07-27  4:44 ` Dick Roy
2021-07-27 23:09 ` Karl Auerbach [this message]
2021-07-28  0:00   ` Dick Roy
2021-07-28  8:16     ` Mike Puchol
2021-07-28 17:27       ` Dick Roy

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