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From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 15:15:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d1cde244-5ae4-4af8-8d57-07db1de45b78@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <052a8da7-f9a4-47d2-ba80-d1f421f12e0d@gmail.com>


Le 08/12/2023 à 13:46, Alexandre Petrescu via Starlink a écrit :
>
> Le 08/12/2023 à 13:24, Steven a écrit :
>> Alexandre,
>>
>>> Are you sure the DHCPv6-PD server is in Starlink network and not on the
>>> MikroTik router?
>> That would be quite the unusual setup, and even so would require that 
>> I obtain said /56 from elsewhere (such as via a tunnel) to then 
>> delegate back to myself...
> True, it would be unusual, but it is practiced.
>>
>>> It could be that the MikroTik router runs tunnelbroker, obtains a /56
>>> from HE, splits that /56 into multiple /64s and puts it on the 
>>> DHCPv6-PD
>>> local server config files.
>> I am confident this is not the case since I configured these routers 
>> from scratch.
>>
>>> It could also be that the DHCPv6-PD server is run on the Dishy.
>> It is unlikely that it is on the Dishy, as the latency to the DHCPv6 
>> servers IP address, as well as the first IP hop, indicates the usual 
>> Ground->Space->Ground latency I'd expect.
>
> YEs, that latency argument is a good reason.
>
>
>>
>>> It could also be that the DHCPv6-PD server is run on the starlink 
>>> ground
>>> network: maybe on the teleport, maybe deeper on the starlink network.
>> Yes, this is the most likely place they are running this, likely the 
>> PoP you are being routed through.
>>
>>> Do you know the IPv6 address of your DHCPv6-PD Server?
>> The DHCPv6 server address is a Starlink IPv6 address, the same one as 
>> my default gateway (`2406:2d40:xxx:xxx::1`). The /56 I am being 
>> allocated is also from the same /32 as this DHCPv6 server, with the 
>> /32 being 2406:2d40::/32, which you'll note is allocated to Starlink.
>
> Thanks.  That convinces me it is as you say: the /56 is provided by 
> the starlink DHCPv6-PD server situated in the ground network of 
> starlink somewhere.
>
> This makes it for a great tool for many things.


Sorry for having been cryptic  about 'many things' - I meant to say that 
I hope that MikroTik querying the DHCPv6-PD server in the starlink 
infrastructure might work ok from  a car as well.  This would be one big 
advantage of using starlink instead of a 4G-5G link in a car (the 4G-5G 
cellular networks only give /64s to end users, and the android 
smartphones dont run DHCPv6-PD Clients).

Alex

>
> Alex
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Steven
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-04  0:15 Noel Butler
2023-12-04  0:44 ` J Pan
2023-12-04 12:04   ` Noel Butler
2023-12-04 18:17     ` J Pan
2023-12-07 11:54       ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-07 18:07         ` J Pan
2023-12-07 20:10           ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-07 20:40           ` David Lang
2023-12-08  5:57         ` Freddie Cash
2023-12-08  8:30           ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08  8:37             ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 15:27               ` Freddie Cash
2023-12-08 17:26                 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08  8:40             ` Steven
2023-12-08 10:22               ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 10:31                 ` Steven
2023-12-08 11:48                   ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 11:54                     ` Steven
2023-12-08 12:07                       ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 12:24                         ` Steven
2023-12-08 12:46                           ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 14:15                             ` Alexandre Petrescu [this message]
2023-12-11 15:30                           ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-12  1:09                             ` Steven Honson
2023-12-12  2:29                               ` J Pan
2023-12-12  2:43                                 ` Steven
2023-12-12 10:22                                   ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-12 10:33                                     ` Steven
2023-12-12 10:50                                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-12-13 10:33                                         ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-13 14:37                                           ` Marc Blanchet
2023-12-13 18:27                                           ` David Lang
2023-12-14 13:27                                             ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-23 21:35                                               ` J Pan
2024-01-06 15:01                                                 ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-08 10:01                                                   ` [Starlink] starlink topology with tunnels (was: Info on IP country ranges) Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-08 10:06                                                   ` [Starlink] starlink topology with tunnels Alexandre PETRESCU
2023-12-12 10:52                                       ` [Starlink] Info on IP country ranges Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 10:28               ` Alexandre Petrescu
2023-12-08 10:31                 ` Gert Doering
2023-12-13 20:58 David Fernández
2023-12-13 22:57 ` Marc Blanchet
2023-12-13 22:59   ` Marc Blanchet
2023-12-24  1:29   ` Lukasz Bromirski
2024-01-06 14:59     ` Alexandre Petrescu
2024-01-06 15:06       ` Dave Taht
2024-01-08 10:54         ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-01-08 13:16           ` Alexandre Petrescu

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