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From: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>
To: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>, starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Starlink and Iran
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2026 23:51:15 +1300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8d2964f-23eb-4d49-9a5b-72e306f79fd2@auckland.ac.nz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6a7e0aee-970f-44ad-8182-2091fbe6488f@gmail.com>

On 15/01/2026 11:32 pm, Inemesit Affia wrote:
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> Something more about d2c and other things.
>
> In 4G the network can limit services to say SMS only. Or calls only. 
> But once you give the phone access to IP, the phone is responsible for 
> limiting itself. Hence satellite enabled apps. Without this we've seen 
> people do speed tests on the DTC network.
>
> More spectrum in use means more power or sometimes more equipment to 
> do jamming. Only GPS and the Ku uplink seem to be jammed.

Ku uplink would be the easier target but you'd have to have a lot of 
jammers (one per sat you want to jam), all with tracking antennas, and 
it'd pretty much work for a cell (or perhaps cell cluster) at a time - 
you'd need a separate set for each city I guess.

BTW I should have said "access request channel" not "access grant channel".

>
>
> Expertise for RF work doesn't have to be local. Huawei is a world 
> leader. And I'm sure you're familiar with expats.
I was referring to people who'd go track down Dishys locally by RF 
direction finding ... so having an expert in China doesn't really help 
here. That needs boots on the ground.
>
>
> As for underserved areas, Starlink may be advertised as a rural 
> service, but in poorer countries, most users aren't just suburban but 
> actually Urban

True - Manila is a great example for this, and there are others. But 
Iranian cities are not. Iran was targeting 20 million households and 
businesses on fibre by the end of last year, and of course there was 
mobile Internet on top of that.

I'm sure there would have been a segment of urban users also, 
specifically to get at otherwise firewalled content.


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  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-15 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-15  9:51 [Starlink] Starlink and Iran Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:06 ` [Starlink] " Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:30   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:44     ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 11:16       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 10:32 ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 10:51   ` Ulrich Speidel [this message]
2026-01-15 11:17 ` David Lang
2026-01-15 11:59   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2026-01-15 14:08     ` David Lang
2026-01-15 15:29       ` Sauli Kiviranta
     [not found]   ` <3af2ac06-e098-4c79-869d-9c389959ca07@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <q9304244-661o-3qsr-o6rp-9q1nqq09r419@ynat.uz>
     [not found]       ` <4ba64a41-bbbf-4fb5-adb0-c77c15e4ca0f@gmail.com>
2026-01-15 16:20         ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-15 20:12   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 17:10 ` J Pan
2026-01-15 20:07   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:47     ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-16  4:18       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  8:12         ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  8:24           ` Inemesit Affia
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-01-15 14:50 David Fernández
2026-01-15 16:11 ` Oleg Kutkov
2026-01-15 17:13   ` J Pan
     [not found] <176849731431.1249.14387618908540773471@gauss>
2026-01-15 17:42 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 18:56   ` Jim Forster
2026-01-15 20:15     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:27   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 20:30     ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:06       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:09         ` Hayden Simon
2026-01-15 21:20           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-15 21:23             ` Hayden Simon
     [not found] <176851123059.1249.8585659892308012167@gauss>
2026-01-15 21:49 ` Colin_Higbie
2026-01-15 23:15   ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16  0:13   ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-16  1:29     ` David Lang
2026-01-16 22:55       ` Frantisek Borsik
2026-01-16 23:06         ` J Pan
     [not found]     ` <13187.1768590201@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2026-01-16 23:30       ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-17  0:07         ` David Lang
2026-01-17 21:56           ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-19 20:39             ` David Lang
2026-01-28  3:09               ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  3:30                 ` David Lang
2026-01-28  4:02                   ` Mike Puchol
2026-01-28  9:05                     ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28  9:53                       ` David Lang
2026-01-28 20:43                         ` Ulrich Speidel
2026-01-28 20:55                           ` David Lang
2026-01-17 18:32         ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 18:38           ` Inemesit Affia
2026-01-17 19:25             ` Michael Richardson
2026-01-17 22:12           ` Ulrich Speidel

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