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From: Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>
To: Michael Kan <michael_kan@pcmag.com>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
	Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>,
	starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP)
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2025 00:20:31 +0100 (GMT+01:00)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9f5e5da-1255-4cbd-a1dc-1853b1f4a491@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9aebb7c-c92f-46de-b144-cb31304f044b@gmail.com>

I meant Michael rather.

Dec 9, 2025 12:19:35 AM Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>:

> David, those are latencies for each component.
> 
> Don't expect the ~25 ms Starlink can do right now in the Continental USA. I believe in that re Invent video from Amazon, they mentioned 50 ms to start with.
> 
> Dec 8, 2025 10:22:32 PM Michael Kan <michael_kan@pcmag.com>:
> 
>> latency for Amazon Leo? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZCx612z930
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2025 at 1:15 PM David Lang via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>> Michael Richardson wrote:
>>> 
>>>> David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:
>>>>    > Michael Richardson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>    >> Would be nice to be able to afford p2p video.
>>>>    >> Would be fantastic if L3 decisions could occur in space when the recipients
>>>>    >> are "nearby'
>>>>
>>>>    > I've seen a lot of people using starlink for zoom calls without issues
>>>>
>>>> I mean, without zoom or any central server in some DC.
>>>> "Church' sends video directly.
>>> 
>>> what uplink bandwith are they needing? I see many people using starlink to
>>> stream live 4k video of cameras from Starbase Tx, frequently multiple cameras
>>> per starlink.
>>> 
>>> David Lang
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-08 23:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-06 15:36 [Starlink] Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP) Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-06 16:36 ` [Starlink] " J Pan
2025-12-06 23:58 ` David Lang
2025-12-07  0:02   ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-07  0:08     ` David Lang
2025-12-08  4:31       ` Inemesit Affia
     [not found]         ` <5098.1765221714@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2025-12-08 20:57           ` David Lang
     [not found]             ` <2609.1765228007@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
2025-12-08 21:15               ` David Lang
2025-12-08 21:22                 ` Michael Kan
2025-12-08 23:19                   ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-08 23:20                     ` Inemesit Affia [this message]
2025-12-08 23:33                   ` David Lang
2025-12-09  1:26             ` David Collier-Brown
2025-12-09  7:49               ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-09  8:11                 ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09  8:23                   ` Frantisek Borsik
2025-12-09  8:21                     ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09  8:29                       ` Inemesit Affia
2025-12-09 13:23       ` Livingood, Jason

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