From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net [185.74.65.108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D20AE3B29D for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2023 02:34:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vsmx002.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (unknown [185.74.64.105]) by mx-out.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C2C8C0321 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2023 06:34:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from proxy-2.proxy.oxio.ham.xion.oxcs.net (proxy-2.proxy.oxio.ham.xion.oxcs.net [83.61.18.4]) by mx-out.dclux.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 396688CBAE6 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2023 06:34:45 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=dclux.xion.oxcs.net; s=mail1; t=1688711686; bh=ra4RHx2mj7FOdDvVWmktOh7G3Cm5es+Ih+EZ+G3XJNU=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From; b=uN+p5eCqJL+DHHWXsjS00Dmd3N3gOWskIpzQxblWj1JIVlmUghUlDsQC02wALeZiX YX+j/Y5Ve8LwLoba0HaEJwKtqrrZX8ru526/lUDs+qarW5kcC41W7+dsBCUO03uu3q 25VrCbqfycvhDY/M44vwiBXeaQwkqHDOiiPJhSHXih+OaZHz58D8MLRh5G/5zJglTj QxLOoAjR0+LAGbLUP/XHSmgQ8KC2zc0jFDiySCZV5tcZ9EL2QB5qVSelXo87Txo1wD Jdsz+N/PbjnSI7/8MZQKjbLPnKofcZAKfGYZUI0nv2XeN6moXEznzI6VP81nDht23a sehE8Q3hSKCdA== Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2023 08:34:38 +0200 From: Mike Puchol To: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <06c7e204-5eba-4766-3b39-dfaa33f41f69@falco.ca> References: <114eabbd-cf5b-1c08-8226-fbf53455d9ea@falco.ca> <6p3296pr-96n3-8p77-ps68-25155r16o365@ynat.uz> <32d09d76-7aa6-a469-9539-d02a9fa9c7f3@gmail.com> <06c7e204-5eba-4766-3b39-dfaa33f41f69@falco.ca> X-Readdle-Message-ID: e1d88f8e-6afb-4ea7-a99c-bbbc9e35c5bc@Spark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="64a7b204_5f688829_1d9b" X-VadeSecure-Status: LEGIT X-VADE-STATUS: LEGIT Subject: Re: [Starlink] orbital maneuvers 12 per sat in the last 6 months X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 06:34:48 -0000 --64a7b204_5f688829_1d9b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Profession Hugh Lewis follows Starlink=E2=80=99s conjuction reports close= ly, and writes very detailed threads whenever a report comes up: https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis Latest thread: https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis/status/1658173801924812803 If you want an idea of -what- they are avoiding, LeoLabs operates a set o= f radars which track anything larger than 10cm in cross-section, and prov= ides an awesome visualization here: https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization (make sure to enable the =E2=80=9Cdebris=E2=80=9D checkbox too) Best, Mike On Jul 7, 2023 at 08:23 +0200, Daniel AJ Sokolov via Starlink , wrote: > > On 7/6/23 22:28, blakangel=40gmail.com wrote: > > I think the main point of the article is that the amount of maneuvers= > > needed is currently increasing exponentially: > > Indeed, I read that. But the article does not explain why they think > this trend will continue exponentially. > > Obviously it can't continue exponentially forever, because eventually > all satellites are on the move evading one another 100% of the time. :-= ) > > Cheers > Daniel > =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F > Starlink mailing list > Starlink=40lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --64a7b204_5f688829_1d9b Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Profession Hugh Lewis follows Starlink=E2=80=99s co= njuction reports closely, and writes very detailed threads whenever a rep= ort comes up:

https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis

Latest thread:

https://twitter.com/ProfHughLewis/status/1658= 173801924812803

If you want an idea of -what- they are avoiding, LeoLabs operates a set o= f radars which track anything larger than 10cm in cross-section, and prov= ides an awesome visualization here:

https://platform.leolabs.space/visualization

(make sure to enable the =E2=80=9Cdebris=E2=80=9D checkbox too)

Best,

Mike
On Jul 7, 2023 at 08:23 +0200, Dani= el AJ Sokolov via Starlink <starlink=40lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrot= e:

On 7/6/23 22:28, blakangel=40gmail.com wrote:
I think the main point of the article is th= at the amount of maneuvers
needed is currently increasing exponentially:

Indeed, I read that. But the article does not explain why they think
this trend will continue exponentially.

Obviously it can't continue exponentially forever, because eventually
all satellites are on the move evading one another 100% of the time. :-)<= br />
Cheers
Daniel
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