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From: Mike Puchol <mike@starlink.sx>
To: "Dave Täht via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] It's still the starlink latency...
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2022 14:01:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e8eb152d-3e78-4ec1-870e-839828d180fe@Spark> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP4ODMeZ6L1=Hq3JbMAi3osNeniBfJSqNDSZUfnwGya6v3iYxg@mail.gmail.com>

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Satellites don’t get re-positioned, they are in orbital planes and slots, to move them is expensive in time and fuel, thus, once they have been placed, they stay. You can see how the constellation operates at starlink.sx - you’ll quickly notice why coverage is a function of gateway availability, the constellation has enough density.

The issues in the US are twofold - many customers added while not enough satellite capacity is available (the first constellation is only about 50% complete), and many gateways only have half the spectrum available, reducing available througput.

Best,

Mike
On Sep 22, 2022 at 13:42 +0200, Andrew Crane via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>, wrote:
> Even senior reporters for tech publications have been conditioned to not look beyond "speed" numbers.
>
> OT I wonder if the woes in North America are caused by the unplanned repositioning of satellites for Ukraine coverage.
> ~ Andrew
>
>
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 2:35 PM Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> > > I still find it remarkable that reporters are still missing the
> > > meaning of the huge latencies for starlink, under load. Just look at
> > > the
> > >
> > > https://www.pcmag.com/news/starlink-speeds-drop-significantly-in-the-us-amid-congestion-woes
> > >
> > > --
> > > FQ World Domination pending: https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/state_of_fq_codel/
> > > Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-22 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-21 18:35 Dave Taht
2022-09-22 11:41 ` Andrew Crane
2022-09-22 12:01   ` Mike Puchol [this message]
2022-09-22 13:46     ` warren ponder
2022-09-22 15:07       ` Dave Taht
2022-09-22 15:26         ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 15:20 ` Livingood, Jason
2022-09-26 15:29   ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 15:57     ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-26 16:21     ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 16:32       ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 19:59         ` Eugene Chang
2022-09-26 20:04           ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:14             ` Ben Greear
2022-09-26 20:24               ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:32                 ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 20:36                   ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:47                 ` Ben Greear
2022-09-26 20:19             ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 20:28               ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 20:32                 ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:35               ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 20:48               ` David Lang
2022-09-26 20:54                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:01                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-26 21:10                     ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:20                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-26 21:35                         ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:44                           ` David Lang
2022-09-26 21:44                           ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-27  0:35                             ` Dave Taht
2022-09-27  0:55                               ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-27  1:12                                 ` Dave Taht
2022-09-27  4:06                               ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-27  3:50                             ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-27  7:09                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-27 22:46                                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-28  9:54                                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-28 18:49                                     ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:22                       ` David Lang
2022-09-26 21:29                         ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-27  3:47                           ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-27  6:36                             ` Sebastian Moeller
2022-09-27 13:55                               ` Dave Taht
2022-09-28  0:20                                 ` Eugene Y Chang
2022-09-26 21:02                   ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-26 21:14                     ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 21:10                   ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 21:28                     ` warren ponder
2022-09-26 21:34                       ` Bruce Perens
2022-09-27 16:14                       ` Dave Taht
2022-09-26 21:17                   ` David Lang
2022-09-29  9:10 David Fernández
2022-09-29 19:34 ` Eugene Chang
2022-10-17 13:50 David Fernández
2022-10-17 16:53 ` David Fernández

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