From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail0.rbsov.bogons.net (mail0.rbsov.bogons.net [IPv6:2001:4b10:0:1001::12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 041E63B29D for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 19:54:41 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bogons.net; s=dkim2019; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Reply-To: References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:Subject:To:From:Sender:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Y+XLJeZ3IsycmCYZ/MCujVsQhckg5rVEaf4fm80Vm/I=; b=qSqURZUbi2yvSy9XHoXoJoxY8D Bt3jHyv8kddxnVIocqEqIzRfVXUt/FApLniLxtrzgjSyDN6yUcYQSRAhq6opMpacmSLCax5BUfQ3u R1jNcYdnj2YfZ9qPeZpNDVT+5fJfK3qEzAdEMs03hSNYfGe51aAOAtVYfBpE1tflJGYTgK9IcP91q LS2xa7UmF2UJeckasPt694InG0vMqUYfgzRLE24K7P/r+dby1inDAdl3KO1pyGl+iGaIkJ6St2GNQ yZom3tU6Aes+1TLFy+j4S9Ci+18PFOi1od4qAfqsK7k0bRLfU1jchA5O+1ZDkcUEPeyUDsApQoB2a pEi5h5Lg==; Envelope-to: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Received: from vr0-g0-1-0.thdo.bogons.net ([85.158.40.74] helo=[IPv6:::ffff:132.185.28.54]) by mail0.rbsov.bogons.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tuKI0-0000ZB-DK; Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:54:39 +0000 From: "Brandon Butterworth" To: "Eric Kuhnke" , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:54:25 +0000 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Reply-To: "Brandon Butterworth" User-Agent: eM_Client/10.1.4828.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.2 X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Report: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HELO_MISC_IP, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.4.4 Subject: Re: [Starlink] Alphabet spins off Starlink competitor Taara X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2025 23:54:42 -0000 On 17/03/2025 23:45:16, "Eric Kuhnke via Starlink"=20 wrote: >This is not in any way a competitor for starlink. This is a competitor for = V-band (60 GHz) and E-Band (71-86 GHz) point to point bridge radio systems= . Those are getting cheap, and especially cheap V band a lot better in range, speed, and reliability. Maybe the free space optics have got a lot better too, they used to unreliable due to atmospherics. Heat haze from roads plagued the ones we had. brandon