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From: "Brandon Butterworth" <brandon-ml@bogons.net>
To: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	"Dave Taht via Starlink" <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] lumen orbit
Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 23:12:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <embaf16fb0-0d93-483e-90d0-e17e5ea9e300@135aa14c.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw5O=f+DYXokO86_1cOte+kzuF3TC-XZDQNZJ1Ar-5Xa6A@mail.gmail.com>

On 04/09/2024 15:48:51, "Dave Taht via Starlink" 
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>They plan to build a 5GW 4k solar square for data centers in orbit,
>launched on starship:
>
>https://www.lumenorbit.com/

Maintenance call outs are going to be interesting

>How are they going to cool this thing?

With some big radiators. From
https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/473486main_iss_atcs_overview.pdf

it seems that the ISS units take about 23 * 3.5m area for 35kW so
about 440 W/m^2, if they are about the same then 5GW will need
around 11 million sq metres.

That seems a totally unfeasible number so either I messed up the
calculation, or they have way more efficient radiators than NASA,
or this is wishful thinking/investor grift.

Compare it to the solar panels needed to collect that much power,
current ISS panels are 190W/m^2 @ 14% efficiency, assuming they can
get to earth efficiency of around 20% they might get 270W/m^2 so
they are going to need more space. At lease one could be on the
reverse of the other.

Anyone got better numbers?

brandon


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-04 23:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-04 14:48 Dave Taht
2024-09-04 14:56 ` tom
2024-09-04 15:01 ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-09-04 15:02   ` Dave Cohen
2024-09-04 23:12 ` Brandon Butterworth [this message]
2024-09-04 23:52   ` David Lang
2024-09-05  0:07     ` David Lang
2024-09-05 17:58     ` Michael Richardson
2024-09-05 19:37       ` Sebastian Moeller
2024-09-05 20:18         ` Brandon Butterworth
2024-09-06  4:31           ` Dave Taht
2024-09-08 14:01             ` Dave Taht
2024-09-08 16:21               ` Michael Richardson

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