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* [Starlink] [LEO-NET MOBICOM Workshop] CFP: 1st ACM Mobicom Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET)
@ 2023-06-02  9:38 Nitinder Mohan
  2023-06-02 16:14 ` Dave Taht
  2023-06-05  8:49 ` Nitinder Mohan
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Nitinder Mohan @ 2023-06-02  9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht via Starlink

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Dear Starlink bufferbloat community,  

We are organizing the first LEO communications and networking workshop which is inspired by the many wonderful discussions on this mailing list. In case you are working on characterising and understanding LEO operations and performance, please consider submitting your work to the workshop.  


The 1st ACM Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET)


To be held in conjunction with ACM MobiCom 2023


October 2023, Madrid, Spain(x-apple-data-detectors://0)


Workshop website: https://leo-net-workshop.github.io/2023/


Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellite communication and networking is a rapidly growing field with great potential for enabling new and innovative applications by providing low-latency, high-bandwidth Internet connectivity globally. Massive-scale LEO deployments from industrial players, such as Starlink, OneWeb, etc. have allowed wide-scale availability of LEO satellite network access globally but their network remains to operate as a black box. However, considering the state of LEO networking and constellation design is still in its infancy, we believe that the unique challenges posed by the inherently dynamic LEO satellite architectures, necessitate novel solutions in network architecture, protocol design, resource management, along with several other verticals.


LEO-NET 2023 invites submissions from researchers and practitioners in academia and industry who are exploring the latest developments and open challenges in LEO satellite networks and communications. We also welcome work-in-progress and position papers that present new directions, highly original ideas, or have the potential to provoke insightful discussions during the workshop. Whether you're an expert or a newcomer to the field, we encourage you to join us and contribute to this exciting area of research.


*** Topics of Interest ***

LEO constellation topology/constellation design
Routing for LEO constellations
Transport for LEO networks
Optical/RF wireless last-mile
Resource management for LEO networks
Mobility and handover management in LEO networks
Interactions between LEO, MEO and GEO constellations
Interplay next-generation mobile (5G, 6G) and LEO networks
Mobile/Edge computing and IoT in space
ML/AI for LEO satellites
Emerging applications for LEO networks
Performance measurements over LEO networks
Simulation/Emulation tools for LEO networks
Security/Privacy for LEO networks


*** Submission Instructions ***


Submissions must be original, unpublished work, and not currently under consideration elsewhere. Submitted papers must be no longer than five (5) pages, including all figures, tables, followed by 1 page references. Submission should be single PDF file with all fonts embedded, in two-column 10pt ACM format with authors names and affiliations hidden for double-blind peer review. Authors of accepted papers are expected to present their work at the workshop. Accepted papers will be published in the MobiCom Workshop Proceedings, and available at the ACM Digital Library.


*** Important Dates ***

Paper Submission: June 19, 2023(x-apple-data-detectors://2)
Acceptance notification: August 2, 2023(x-apple-data-detectors://3)
Camera-ready Workshop Papers: August 11, 2023(x-apple-data-detectors://4)


*** Steering Committee ***


Nitinder Mohan, Technical University of Munich, Germany


Deepak Vasisht, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, USA


Mohamed Kassem, University of Surrey, UK


*** Advisory Board ***


Debopam Bhattacharjee, Microsoft Research, India


*** Technical Program Committee ***


Nishanth Sastry, University of Surrey, UK


Mahesh Marina, University of Edinburgh, UK


Ahmed Saeed, GeorgiaTech, USA


Aravindh Raman, Telefonica Research, Spain


Debopam Bhattacherjee, Microsoft Research India


Anna Brünstorm, Karlstadt University, Sweden


Akshay Gadre, University of Washington, USA


Tusher Chakraborty, Microsoft Research, USA


Jörg Ott, Technical University of Munich, Germany


Arpit Gupta, University of California Santa Barbara, USA


Yuanjie Li, Tsinghua University, China


David Bermbach, TU Berlin, Germany


Giacomo Giuliari, ETH Zurich, Switzerland


Thanks and Regards  

Nitinder Mohan  
Postdoctoral Fellow
Technical University Munich (TUM)
https://www.nitindermohan.com/



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* Re: [Starlink] [LEO-NET MOBICOM Workshop] CFP: 1st ACM Mobicom Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET)
  2023-06-02  9:38 [Starlink] [LEO-NET MOBICOM Workshop] CFP: 1st ACM Mobicom Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET) Nitinder Mohan
@ 2023-06-02 16:14 ` Dave Taht
  2023-06-05  8:49 ` Nitinder Mohan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2023-06-02 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nitinder Mohan; +Cc: Dave Taht via Starlink

While I am *delighted* to see this... the june 19th deadline is awfully tight.

The CFP calls for "novelty", where when it comes to space, reality
triumphs, and there is little widely understood ground (space?) truth,
to leverage as starting points, as yet, IMHO, and few of those in that
part of the business willing or able to share. I do hope to see
submissions from companies that have succeeded and are willing to
share.

In terms of looking further out, I see LEO as too limiting - in the
context of the much larger and interesting problems of properly
supporting the earth-moon and earth-mars corridors, and ultimately,
better exploring the solar system.  Perhaps one day a GTO or sun-sync
conference would be ideal to have, and I would so love to have reports
back from the 8 spacex "Transporter" missions to date. 100s of
cubesats in those that far, far too few, know anything about!

Over here, back in 2014, I tried to explain the importance of getting
our space software more right, for that, in about 1 minute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWdL2Wu7M-8&t=900s

Lastly, if there is any one point, that I am always making, and
indeed, made in that talk, it is the need to have people at all layers
of the network stack, communicating. I would hope that at least some
folk, with more of an IEEE background, can be part of this conference.


On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 3:42 AM Nitinder Mohan via Starlink
<starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Dear Starlink bufferbloat community,
>
> We are organizing the first LEO communications and networking workshop which is inspired by the many wonderful discussions on this mailing list. In case you are working on characterising and understanding LEO operations and performance, please consider submitting your work to the workshop.
>
> ________________________________
>
> The 1st ACM Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET)
>
> To be held in conjunction with ACM MobiCom 2023
>
> October 2023, Madrid, Spain
>
> Workshop website: https://leo-net-workshop.github.io/2023/
>
> ________________________________
>
> Low Earth Orbit (LEO) satellite communication and networking is a rapidly growing field with great potential for enabling new and innovative applications by providing low-latency, high-bandwidth Internet connectivity globally. Massive-scale LEO deployments from industrial players, such as Starlink, OneWeb, etc. have allowed wide-scale availability of LEO satellite network access globally but their network remains to operate as a black box. However, considering the state of LEO networking and constellation design is still in its infancy, we believe that the unique challenges posed by the inherently dynamic LEO satellite architectures, necessitate novel solutions in network architecture, protocol design, resource management, along with several other verticals.
>
> LEO-NET 2023 invites submissions from researchers and practitioners in academia and industry who are exploring the latest developments and open challenges in LEO satellite networks and communications. We also welcome work-in-progress and position papers that present new directions, highly original ideas, or have the potential to provoke insightful discussions during the workshop. Whether you're an expert or a newcomer to the field, we encourage you to join us and contribute to this exciting area of research.
>
> *** Topics of Interest ***
>
> LEO constellation topology/constellation design
> Routing for LEO constellations
> Transport for LEO networks
> Optical/RF wireless last-mile
> Resource management for LEO networks
> Mobility and handover management in LEO networks
> Interactions between LEO, MEO and GEO constellations
> Interplay next-generation mobile (5G, 6G) and LEO networks
> Mobile/Edge computing and IoT in space
> ML/AI for LEO satellites
> Emerging applications for LEO networks
> Performance measurements over LEO networks
> Simulation/Emulation tools for LEO networks
> Security/Privacy for LEO networks
>
> *** Submission Instructions ***
>
> Submissions must be original, unpublished work, and not currently under consideration elsewhere. Submitted papers must be no longer than five (5) pages, including all figures, tables, followed by 1 page references. Submission should be single PDF file with all fonts embedded, in two-column 10pt ACM format with authors names and affiliations hidden for double-blind peer review. Authors of accepted papers are expected to present their work at the workshop. Accepted papers will be published in the MobiCom Workshop Proceedings, and available at the ACM Digital Library.
>
> *** Important Dates ***
>
> Paper Submission: June 19, 2023
> Acceptance notification: August 2, 2023
> Camera-ready Workshop Papers: August 11, 2023
>
> *** Steering Committee ***
>
> Nitinder Mohan, Technical University of Munich, Germany
>
> Deepak Vasisht, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, USA
>
> Mohamed Kassem, University of Surrey, UK
>
> *** Advisory Board ***
>
> Debopam Bhattacharjee, Microsoft Research, India
>
> *** Technical Program Committee ***
>
> Nishanth Sastry, University of Surrey, UK
>
> Mahesh Marina, University of Edinburgh, UK
>
> Ahmed Saeed, GeorgiaTech, USA
>
> Aravindh Raman, Telefonica Research, Spain
>
> Debopam Bhattacherjee, Microsoft Research India
>
> Anna Brünstorm, Karlstadt University, Sweden
>
> Akshay Gadre, University of Washington, USA
>
> Tusher Chakraborty, Microsoft Research, USA
>
> Jörg Ott, Technical University of Munich, Germany
>
> Arpit Gupta, University of California Santa Barbara, USA
>
> Yuanjie Li, Tsinghua University, China
>
> David Bermbach, TU Berlin, Germany
>
> Giacomo Giuliari, ETH Zurich, Switzerland
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
> Nitinder Mohan
> Postdoctoral Fellow
> Technical University Munich (TUM)
> https://www.nitindermohan.com/
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* Re: [Starlink] [LEO-NET MOBICOM Workshop] CFP: 1st ACM Mobicom Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET)
  2023-06-02  9:38 [Starlink] [LEO-NET MOBICOM Workshop] CFP: 1st ACM Mobicom Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET) Nitinder Mohan
  2023-06-02 16:14 ` Dave Taht
@ 2023-06-05  8:49 ` Nitinder Mohan
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Nitinder Mohan @ 2023-06-05  8:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dave Taht via Starlink

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Dear Starlink Bufferbloat community,

We have listened to your feedback and extended the submission deadline to June 30. We look forward to your submissions!



Thanks and Regards

Nitinder Mohan
Technical University Munich (TUM)
https://www.nitindermohan.com/

From: Nitinder Mohan <mohan@in.tum.de>
Reply: Nitinder Mohan <mohan@in.tum.de>
Date: 2. June 2023 at 11:42:15
To: Dave Taht via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject:  [LEO-NET MOBICOM Workshop] CFP: 1st ACM Mobicom Workshop on LEO Networking and Communications (LEO-NET)  

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