[Starlink] Re: Amazon Leo announcing up to 1 Gbps (DOWN) and 400 Mbps (UP)

[Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com>]

I don't know anything non public, I got the information by following Dave Täht's work online.

Dec 9, 2025 9:13:32 AM Frantisek Borsik <frantisek.borsik@gmail.com>:

> Yeah, eero has (or had?!) a great CAKE implementation. So now they got rid of it? WTH
> 
> Can you share more about it? Even if only privately…
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
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> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025 at 9:11 AM, Inemesit Affia <inemesitaffia@gmail.com> wrote:
> Amazon also makes residential routers in the EERO brand. I heard they had then removed their AQM (in a new product).
> 
> Don't know the current state.
> 
> But there's institutional knowledge.
> 
> Dec 9, 2025 8:48:53 AM Frantisek Borsik via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>:
> 
> I can't imagine a situation in which Amazon Leo - without using CAKE or
> FQ-CoDel - would get good results, as Starlink didn't without FQ-CoDel
> Hope that they will talk to us, and get help. Sadly, there is no Dave Taht
> here anymore, to chase them for the good of their users :(
> 
> Improvements to CAKE are happening; MQ-CAKE (from Toke), some other good
> options are raising, algorithms like FQ-PIE and PURPE CAKE, improvements
> like xTCP2, XDP2: I will be talking about it at
> https://understandinglatency.com - register, if you didn't, yet.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Frank
> 
> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
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> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025 at 2:26 AM David Collier-Brown via Starlink <
> starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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> Michael Richardson wrote:
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> …
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> On 12/8/25 15:57, David Lang via Starlink wrote:
> microsoft protocols are not wan friendly, they do lots of round trips.
> There are wan accelerator middle boxes that short-cut the protocols.
> It's not just the AD lookups, it's filesystem queries as well.
> 
> MS is really /really/ bad at handling anything bigger/more-laggy than
> the original token-ring and ethernet LANs. In the case of SMB, people
> built local caching/middleware boxes using Samba to get the RTT down.
> 
> They're the first folks who taught me that it's latency, not bandwidth.
> 
> --dave
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