From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Authentication-Results: mail.toke.dk; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=; dkim=pass header.d=falco.ca; arc=none (Message is not ARC signed); dmarc=pass (Used From Domain Record) header.from=falco.ca policy.dmarc=reject Received: from cmail.nextlayer.at (cmail.nextlayer.at [IPv6:2a01:190:1600:2164::25]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D74CDE9E852 for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2026 01:30:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Mailerdaemon) with ESMTPSA id 90C224107B for ; Tue, 24 Mar 2026 01:30:27 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=falco.ca; s=dkim0; t=1774312228; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=epQaNsTp4LMtIUjVsRR5H9R23AzM651POJhfweuBGQA=; b=QODvoI8E6e21h4V5hinAteUETxcCdPa9BPeLkjm8X8kG4btjkMEqNi8vIyxehZR2KkxcZq HuElqqd1tFdTK/AMZFB2+9PciF/aCvSJ9zCtzB8SzcwYydYxE2pNdftdutstFj+OIp63ye vdkiEJueYCrA9FIbS3d8DHF/Xzt7kRYhkUCgbxRjLNFUqz7W5uxfgTMcAF3VhuyjP2IdXB S7AkoS21eWPvTsX1OvDIuQHS6xbM1pixQH2IeT1uaMCcqNHHnFhbeE39qRupHQMfqUyPId 66IlE/J3rU3dPfp7J2m7lPDYVC6X+E0N6Gk45NWv++evY5OiGyMNaLOtacJJcg== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 17:36:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: Dave Taht via Starlink Content-Language: en-CA, de-AT From: Daniel AJ Sokolov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Last-TLS-Session-Version: TLSv1.3 Message-ID-Hash: XUD7AOWM2HCDBRBLYQGC32DYM2MD7OJ2 X-Message-ID-Hash: XUD7AOWM2HCDBRBLYQGC32DYM2MD7OJ2 X-MailFrom: daniel@falco.ca X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; loop; banned-address; emergency; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.10 Precedence: list Subject: [Starlink] FCC declares all new router models illegal List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Dear All, this may be somewhat off topic, but I think you will all want to know this: Today, the FCC has declared that only routers manufactured in the US may obtain valid FCC certification. "Production generally includes any major stage of the process through which the device is made, including manufacturing, assembly, design, and development." I am not aware of any consumer grade router that would be considered made in the US under these rules. Are there any? Are there any routers that work entirely without open source software? Previously approved routers are still OK - kind of. The challenge there is that software updates are affected by the new restrictions. The FCC has provided an exemption until March 1, 2027, for certain software updates - after that, who knows. Manufacturers can apply for exemptions, if - and only if - they have a detailed, time-bound "U.S. Manufacturing and Onshoring Plan", Also, they must disclose competition-sensitive information. For the official documents, start here: https://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-updates-covered-list-include-foreign-made-consumer-routers FYI Daniel