From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from open.nlnet.nl (open.nlnet.nl [IPv6:2001:67c:6ec:253:145:220:53:132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F51A3B2A4 for ; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:31:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 22:31:28 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nlnet.nl; s=mail; t=1743625888; bh=h4urM2V8fmbpq9WyjMIRvbjmk9sKUGi430BTpPwbzpQ=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=stwCUd5KheyKVodFlkBXjS+KBgFx6ibsPHzZt1pk/LXJGrmpQEnT62tbKpYF/m7T3 ApPImrIxk1IsUAUZQqyAzDQP0s2gHTh1qYYOC1z7at6r+Nw0XP5FntklPCnqgm/gUW he6+x97jg5bVZGoTKYSqkeCyhoMEr374Hzv8oyhs= From: Michiel Leenaars To: "David P. Reed via Starlink" Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Michiel Leenaars , "David P. Reed via Starlink" References: <014po62q-r99p-71np-52r1-n84n9np63nqr@ynat.uz> <87plhvlyoc.fsf@toke.dk> <976DC4FC-44CA-4C7E-90E0-DE39B57F01E1@comcast.com> <8DA2934A-43D1-4700-8F32-CA424C3FAE8D@comcast.com> <1743623511.52759201@apps.rackspace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hqrqaqrwlrptsfpm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1743623511.52759201@apps.rackspace.com> Subject: Re: [Starlink] =?utf-8?q?=5BCake=5D_=5BBloat=5D_In_loving_memory_of_D?= =?utf-8?b?YXZlIFTDpGh0IDwz?= X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 20:31:29 -0000 --hqrqaqrwlrptsfpm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Hi David, >2) I was thinking about how we could get Dave recognized for his contributions. Like other unsung heroes, Dave didn't work for BBN or some other moneyed entity who would commission a book or a memorial. (BBN paid Katie Hafner to write the text that later turned into her book "When Wizards Stay Up Late", which oddly only talked about the ARPANET/Internet pioneers who worked for BBN, omitting many of my Internet colleagues.) Dave wasn't the kind of guy that gets Awards from the Computer History Museum or the ACM or IEEE. He wasn't beloved at IETF or ISOC that I know of. He's in the category of folks like Noel Chiappa or Bram Cohen or Richard Stallman or Aaron Swartz - people I think really changed the way we think about computing and internetworking, but who won't be in the official histories. We just missed the deadline for the Internet Hall of Fame by a few days: https://www.internethalloffame.org/2025/01/20/the-internet-hall-of-fame-2025-nominations-are-now-open/ (which features Richard Stallman and Aaron Schwartz already, to be fair) But perhaps someone has nominated him already. Best, Michiel --hqrqaqrwlrptsfpm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEABYKAB0WIQRaBFRMPxh7KuVZuruUh34Y8OwDCgUCZ+2eoAAKCRCUh34Y8OwD Ctm4AP9jIlziiyKCeVeMdTHh9SZvz/qtKVoYB1Q4YxfoxcgoKwEApR0dzb35H0IC UyqLBQDnuFIrO6iwfvhgMjXfKHe8JgM= =i12e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hqrqaqrwlrptsfpm--