From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BD763B29E for ; Fri, 12 May 2023 19:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.69]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id E55CD18E00D; Fri, 12 May 2023 16:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 16:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Darrell Budic cc: Dave Taht , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <29410BC8-B70B-40FC-9885-513AC26F2147@onholyground.com> Message-ID: References: <18126136-62E3-4C6D-88D2-72124B73BFDF@onholyground.com> <29410BC8-B70B-40FC-9885-513AC26F2147@onholyground.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="228850167-413992106-1683934668=:15245" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Planetary Society podcast on SpaceX & EPA issues X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 23:37:50 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --228850167-413992106-1683934668=:15245 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT a few minor points. They have always intended to operate out of Kennedy Space Center, as well as other places, so it's hard to tell if they are pulling back from Texas or just moving forward on their long term plan. Remember, they expect that it will be cheaper to launch a Starship than it is to launch an Electron (let along a Falcon 9) The initial plan for Boca Chica included Falcon Heavys, not just the Falcon 9 David Lang On Fri, 12 May 2023, Darrell Budic via Starlink wrote: > Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 18:18:16 -0500 > From: Darrell Budic via Starlink > Reply-To: Darrell Budic > To: Dave Taht > Cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > Subject: Re: [Starlink] Planetary Society podcast on SpaceX & EPA issues > > The TLDR; is probably: > > - site originally used a sort of short form Environmental Impact Statement to certify for occasional falcon 9 launches, not exploding starship testing > - updates have been made to allow for the testing, and this is where the recent lawsuits are centered > - crazy things have been floated for the site (LNG shipping terminal, 250MW power plant) that would have required new evals > - lots of this is probably traceable to Musk’s lack of local PR and just trying to crash forward and the recent train derailments in the news raising awareness > - SpaceX seems to be realizing this site may not be what they need and may to be looking at doing more at Kennedy Space Center in the future > - if the lawsuit against the EPA stays in Washington DC, it may be trouble for SpaceX, if it moves to Texas at the EPAs request, it’s more likely to mean little overall > > But you miss a lot of somewhat interesting policy and background on the Environmental angle, which turns out to be more involved than I’d have thought from a distance. > > Also nice that the Planetary Society posts a full transcript if you’d rather read/skim than listen. > >> On May 12, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >> >> could you summarize? >> >> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 8:48 AM Darrell Budic via Starlink >> wrote: >>> >>> Some intersting coverage on the route SpaceX took with their Boca Chica site and environmental issues here: >>> >>> https://www.planetary.org/planetary-radio/space-policy-edition-spacexs-starship-vs-the-environment-with-eric-roesch >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Starlink mailing list >>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >> >> >> -- >> Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7058793910227111937/ >> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --228850167-413992106-1683934668=:15245--