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From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: "Dave Täht" <davet@teklibre.net>
Cc: Ulrich Speidel <u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz>,
	starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 19:16:27 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <n715816s-s4or-s994-s6o2-o3p9s4nsqo9@ynat.uz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220526234402.GA21213@mail.taht.net>

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On Thu, 26 May 2022, Dave Täht wrote:

> On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:08:46AM +1200, Ulrich Speidel wrote:
>> I note that the four communities are all clustered in a relatively small
>> area on the eastern shores of Lake Manitoba, more or less in walking
>> distance of each other. That's a significant number of terminals for such a
>> small area. It'll be interesting to see whether Starlink will have the
>> capacity to service them all. Mind you, they're just south of the 53rd
>> parallel, where satellite density is highest, so if not there, then where?
>> But I guess this probably comes on top of an existing customer base in a
>> wider area awash with hard-to-reach users.
>
> It would be saner to have a correct number of starlink termnals,
> and to further spread the network around via fixed wireless, or
> even cabling up portions of the neighborhood. This is a job for a
> WISP/starlink partnership, methinks.

I suspect that in many of these areas, your concept of 'the neighborhood' is 
going to be incorrect.

David Lang

>> 
>> On 17/05/2022 9:22 am, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote:
>> 
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >The Canadian province of Quebec wants to subsidise
>> >Starlink-subscriptions for 10,200 hard to reach homes. The subsidy,
>> >apparently, is not ongoing, but a one-off for purchasing the hardware.
>> >
>> >In four Manitoba communities, federal money will provide a subsidy of
>> >CAD 900 each for 1,162 households. That covers the device plus tax, but
>> >not Starlink's delivery fee or any cost of installation.
>> >
>> >https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched <https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched>
>> >
>> >https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html <https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html>
>> >
>> >FYI
>> >Daniel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> 
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>> 
>> Room 303S.594 (City Campus)
>> 
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      reply	other threads:[~2022-05-27  2:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-16 21:22 Daniel AJ Sokolov
2022-05-16 22:08 ` Ulrich Speidel
2022-05-26 23:44   ` Dave Täht
2022-05-27  2:16     ` David Lang [this message]

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