From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 485E43B29D for ; Thu, 26 May 2022 22:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.69]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049C1132F71; Thu, 26 May 2022 19:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 19:16:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dave_T=E4ht?= cc: Ulrich Speidel , starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <20220526234402.GA21213@mail.taht.net> Message-ID: References: <47310bc7-d368-11f2-c54f-ce3b942ea531@falco.ca> <4429ffe8-0f8d-d14f-3eb6-8f03ffd9b985@auckland.ac.nz> <20220526234402.GA21213@mail.taht.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="228850167-713961788-1653617788=:5501" Subject: Re: [Starlink] Subsidised in Canada for Starlink-Hardware X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 02:16:29 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --228850167-713961788-1653617788=:5501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 26 May 2022, Dave Täht wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2022 at 10:08:46AM +1200, Ulrich Speidel wrote: >> I note that the four communities are all clustered in a relatively small >> area on the eastern shores of Lake Manitoba, more or less in walking >> distance of each other. That's a significant number of terminals for such a >> small area. It'll be interesting to see whether Starlink will have the >> capacity to service them all. Mind you, they're just south of the 53rd >> parallel, where satellite density is highest, so if not there, then where? >> But I guess this probably comes on top of an existing customer base in a >> wider area awash with hard-to-reach users. > > It would be saner to have a correct number of starlink termnals, > and to further spread the network around via fixed wireless, or > even cabling up portions of the neighborhood. This is a job for a > WISP/starlink partnership, methinks. I suspect that in many of these areas, your concept of 'the neighborhood' is going to be incorrect. David Lang >> >> On 17/05/2022 9:22 am, Daniel AJ Sokolov wrote: >> >> >Hello, >> > >> >The Canadian province of Quebec wants to subsidise >> >Starlink-subscriptions for 10,200 hard to reach homes. The subsidy, >> >apparently, is not ongoing, but a one-off for purchasing the hardware. >> > >> >In four Manitoba communities, federal money will provide a subsidy of >> >CAD 900 each for 1,162 households. That covers the device plus tax, but >> >not Starlink's delivery fee or any cost of installation. >> > >> >https://www.commsupdate.com/articles/2022/05/16/starlink-utilised-in-quebec-manitoba-rural-broadband-programmes-portability-option-launched >> > >> >https://www.canada.ca/en/innovation-science-economic-development/news/2022/05/government-of-canada-invests-over-1-million-to-bring-high-speed-internet-to-up-to-1162households-in-manitoba.html >> > >> >FYI >> >Daniel >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> >Starlink mailing list >> >Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> >https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> > >> >> -- >> **************************************************************** >> Dr. Ulrich Speidel >> >> School of Computer Science >> >> Room 303S.594 (City Campus) >> >> The University of Auckland >> u.speidel@auckland.ac.nz http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~ulrich/ >> **************************************************************** >> >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Starlink mailing list >> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink > > > -- > Fixing the Internet on a too-tight budget: https://patreon.com/dtaht > Dave Taht, Chief bottlewasher, TekLibre > > _______________________________________________ > Starlink mailing list > Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink --228850167-713961788-1653617788=:5501--