From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: "Rodney W. Grimes" <starlink@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
Cc: David Lang <david@lang.hm>, "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>,
starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Starlink] SatNetLab: A call to arms for the next global> Internet testbed
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2021 11:01:01 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.2107131056020.1440203@qynat-yncgbc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202107131239.16DCdq6D058102@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>
On Tue, 13 Jul 2021, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> It wasnt suggested "lowering the bit rate", it was suggested to make the
> packets smaller, which actually does address the hidden transmitter problem
> to some degree as it *would* reduce your air time occupancy, but the damn
> wifi LL aggregation gets in your way cause it blows them back up. When I
> am having to deal/use wifi in a hidden transmitter prone situation I always
> crank down the Fragmentation Threshold setting from the default of 2346 bytes
> to the often the minimum of 256 with good results.
The problem is that with wifi at modern data rates, you have a header at a low
data rate and then data at a much higher data rate (in extreme cases, a >50x
difference), so the amount of data that you send has a pretty minor difference
in the airtime used. So you really do want to send a large amount of data per
transmission to minimize the overhead
IT's not quite as bad if you have disabled 802.11b speeds on the entire network
as that raises the header/housekeeping transmissions from 1Mb/s to 11Mb/s
David Lang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-07-13 18:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2021-07-13 1:23 ` David P. Reed
2021-07-13 1:27 ` Vint Cerf
2021-07-13 1:57 ` David Lang
2021-07-13 12:39 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2021-07-13 18:01 ` David Lang [this message]
2021-07-13 18:06 ` Ben Greear
2021-07-13 18:13 ` David Lang
2021-07-13 18:25 ` Ben Greear
2021-07-13 21:23 ` David Lang
2021-07-09 19:19 [Starlink] SatNetLab: A call to arms for the next global " Dave Taht
2021-07-10 11:49 ` Rodney W. Grimes
2021-07-10 20:27 ` David Lang
2021-07-19 15:50 ` George Burdell
2021-12-11 9:18 ` Ankit Singla
2021-12-13 1:16 ` Dave Taht
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