From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E8853B29E for ; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 22:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-laptop (unknown [10.2.1.47]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1055D102FE0; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 19:10:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@dlang-laptop To: Ulrich Speidel cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <7AB190E6-A974-42A4-982F-5071CA45F31E@onholyground.com> <786faf6a-988d-ff29-42a6-44b508bf6625@cs.auckland.ac.nz> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.1 (DEB 209 2017-03-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Starlink] speedtest.net takes a look at sat internet around the globe X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2021 02:10:31 -0000 On Fri, 13 Aug 2021, Ulrich Speidel wrote: > Indeed. But there is more to this than that. Basically, each satellite > in an inclined orbit crosses each parallel (latitude) up to its > inclination twice per orbit. Since there is a lot less length of > parallel at higher-numbered latitudes, parallels with latitudes close > the the inclination get more satellite crossings per mile of parallel > per hour. So more rockets isn't going to change the density disparity > unless their satellites will go into orbits with vastly different > inclinations (which I hope they will). the first shell is all the same inclination, but they have launched enough to get full coverage even down to the equator. later shells are going to be a different inclination. see the wikipedia page on starlink for the description of the different shells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Constellation_design_and_status. phase 1 is ~4200 satellites (they've launched ~1700), phase 2 is an additional ~7500 at a lower altitude, and they've talked about wanting a phase 3 that would take the total count of over 40,000 satellites. David Lang