From: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com>
Cc: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>,
Hesham ElBakoury via Starlink <starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Starlink] It’s the Latency, FCC
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2024 08:04:13 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <on68s6o5-s10o-oo25-733s-r4o1o71qp184@ynat.uz> (raw)
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Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
> h++ps://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/aws-stops-selling-snowmobile-truck-for-cloud-migrations.html
>> so this is more than just a concept...
>
> Thank you for the example. It is good to know. From the URL, it seems
> as if they did with that truck something that magnetic backup tapes did
> before. Last time I checked, magnetic backup tapes still had higher
> capacity than hard disk drives at a same dimension, but I dont know now.
>
> In a similar vein, there is also a demo of IP-over-avian-carriers RFC
> (pigeons). It is just half fun, and useful in some sense.
>
> This aspect of using object things (trucks, planes, pigeons) to transmit
> data, rather than electromagnetic waves, is also very relevant in a
> satcom discussion. They talk about these ballons, cubesats, disksats,
> sails, and more. They too might offer higher bandwidths but with huge
> latencies. They might be useful for some application, too.
I think the original version was 'never underestimate the bandwidth of a station
wagon filled with tapes driving down the freeway' :-)
tape may have a higher density, but once you include the fact that tape is more
fragile when transported, and the time it takes to read/write the data on each
end, the value of RAID arrays of spinning rust compared to tape is very
attractive.
David Lang
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