From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D30963B2A4 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 23:49:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.70]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914881627D6; Sun, 18 Dec 2022 20:49:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2022 20:49:37 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang To: Oleg Kutkov cc: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <41798860-aac5-7f36-3def-76c3400182a2@olegkutkov.me> Message-ID: References: <41798860-aac5-7f36-3def-76c3400182a2@olegkutkov.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starlink terminal detector X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2022 04:49:39 -0000 and change the name of the starlink wifi so it doesn't stand out as much. David Lang On Mon, 19 Dec 2022, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: > From the beginning, the general rule is don't use Starlink WiFi. Or > hide the router somewhere to reduce RF emissions. > > We have developed a set of rules and recommendations about using a PoE > injector or bypassing the Starlink router. > Unfortunately, a lot of people ignore safety. > > But there are some countermeasures on the way. > > On 12/19/22 05:03, Oleg Kutkov via Starlink wrote: >> Actually, there is nothing special. >> >> You can capture WiFi beacons and get a BSSID with a good directional >> antenna. 10 - 15 km it's not a problem. >> >> They are filtering Starlink router BSSID to figure out that somewhere >> there is Starlink. >> Starlink WiFi router uses Tibro corp. (74:24: prefix). >> On 12/19/22 04:41, Dave Taht via Starlink wrote: >>> Starlink detector boasted about... 10km range. >>> >>> >>> > https://www.notebookcheck.net/Starlink-terminal-detection-radar-to-enter-testing-in-Ukraine-as-per-Russian-military-blogger.675439.0.html >>> >>> >>> I would have figured on starlinks less further front, combined with >>> non los radios and ptp wifi being viable. Targeting every wifi >>> transmitter is a low percentage play, and adhoc modes for directional >>> wifi with synthetic mac's harder to distinguish ... >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Starlink mailing list >>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >> >