From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (syn-045-059-245-186.biz.spectrum.com [45.59.245.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 962CB3CB38 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:38:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CADE1D4844; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 19:38:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Dave Taht cc: Dave Taht via Starlink In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: [Starlink] Starship's 4th flight test was magnificent X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 02:38:11 -0000 Dave Taht wrote: > But that left questions for me. How much overweight are Starship and the > booster now? How much payload can they actually push to an orbit suitable > for deploying starlink? When will they attempt payloads? According to Elon a couple months ago, the current flying versions could deliver ~50t to orbit (in reusable mode), they have 3 more block 1 ships left, and the block 2 ships will be well over 100t (not counting any benefits from weight reduction as they fly them more and can examine them post-recovery) note that if they flew them in expendable mode, they could at least double that payload. Block 3 ships are a bit further out, they are expecting them to handle 200t in fully recoverable mode. > The second set of questions are that the newer, larger Starlink satellites > were designed, oh, 4 years ago? with about 4x the capacity of the existing > ones, and I imagine (and hope) that they have been continually redesigned > with an eye to latency now, as well as capacity. the V2 were about 8-10x the capacity of the V1.5 (the ones they could launch 50-60 per flight), the v2 mini they have been launching (~22/flight) are about midway between the two. No recent word on the V2s, but Tim Dodd did another starbase visit with Elon before the flight, so watch for that to show up soon. David Lang