From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (unknown [66.167.227.145]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 008EB3B2A4 for ; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 15:37:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.2.69]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA621245B6; Thu, 3 Mar 2022 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 12:37:25 -0800 (PST) From: David Lang To: David Lang cc: Nathan Owens , Dave Taht , "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" In-Reply-To: <87o7734r-5ns1-q734-0qr-q0o06sp72s46@ynat.uz> Message-ID: References: <531qo367-1n76-1668-4n54-2o8nspps382@ynat.uz> <87o7734r-5ns1-q734-0qr-q0o06sp72s46@ynat.uz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY=000000000000307f2005d9538f45 Content-ID: <1qrn558p-o184-q2so-3154-n269ps8160po@ynat.uz> Subject: Re: [Starlink] recent starlink rrul test result X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2022 20:37:26 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --000000000000307f2005d9538f45 Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: <98rss9o-6240-o5rr-s31q-q3985prq3r79@ynat.uz> and the irtt irtt client --dscp=0xfe -i3ms -d20m fremont.starlink.taht.net On Thu, 3 Mar 2022, David Lang wrote: > flent -l 300 --step-size=.05 --socket-stats -H fremont.starlink.taht.net > --te=upload_streams=1 -t dlangs-dishy tcp_nup > > flent -l 300 --step-size=.05 --socket-stats -H fremont.starlink.taht.net > --te=download_streams=1 -t dlangs-dishy tcp_ndown > > flent -l 300 --step-size=.05 --socket-stats -H fremont.starlink.taht.net > --te=upload_streams=8 -t dlangs-dishy-8 tcp_nup > > flent -l 300 --step-size=.05 --socket-stats -H fremont.starlink.taht.net > --te=download_streams=8 -t dlangs-dishy-8 tcp_ndown > > flent -l 300 --step-size=.05 --socket-stats -H fremont.starlink.taht.net -t > dlangs-dishy rrul_be > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2022, Nathan Owens wrote: > >> Same here, Google Meet / Zoom / Teams / FaceTime are great. >> >> Dave, can you post the commands to run those flent measurements? I also >> finally recreated that irtt-based scatterplot, attached. >> >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:15 AM David Lang wrote: >> >>> That said, I've been using starlink for work zoom calls for a while with >>> no >>> significant issues (nothing I can pin on my side vs the other >>> participants) >>> >>> David Lang >>> >>> On Thu, 3 Mar 2022, Dave Taht wrote: >>> >>>> wildly variable bandwidth, adjusted at 15 sec intervals, induced >>>> latencies of 400ms, really terrible upload throughput relative to >>>> down. >>>> >>>> H/T David Lang for this data. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 9:31 AM Livingood, Jason >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> When folks experience sub-par video conferencing over Starlink, it'd be >>> great to see working latency stats at that time - such as via the easy >>> test >>> at https://www.waveform.com/tools/bufferbloat. >>>>> >>>>> On 2/23/22, 09:38, "Starlink on behalf of Dave Taht" < >>> starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of dave.taht@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.tomevslin.com/2022/02/starlinks-zoomready-rating-is-going-down.html__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj8WTA26WA$ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> I tried to build a better future, a few times: >>>>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.icei.org__;JSUl!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj-yqmwsLA$ >>>>> >>>>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Starlink mailing list >>>>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>>>> >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!TjZjoTCGYO2gkt9xYrGdFrivrejHIdNjVe0TtEsCuQfDJTyNNy4u3_5CxlN2sj_SP7yVhg$ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Starlink mailing list >>> Starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/starlink >>> > --000000000000307f2005d9538f45--