From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.lang.hm (045-059-245-186.biz.spectrum.com [45.59.245.186]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68B883CB38 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 16:00:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dlang-mobile (unknown [10.2.3.133]) by mail.lang.hm (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7127C1C8F6A; Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang To: Sebastian Moeller cc: David Lang , Colin_Higbie , "starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <8s587854-5233-porp-0qrs-6s7ro5093494@ynat.uz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Re: [Starlink] =?iso8859-7?q?Sidebar_to_It=A2s_the_Latency=2C_FCC=3A_?= =?iso8859-7?q?Measure_it=3F?= X-BeenThere: starlink@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Starlink has bufferbloat. Bad." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:00:58 -0000 On Mon, 18 Mar 2024, Sebastian Moeller wrote: >> I'll point out that professional still cameras (DSLRs and the new mirrorless >> ones) also seem to have stalled with the top-of-the-line Canon and Nikon >> topping out at around 20-24 mp (after selling some models that went to 30p or >> so), Sony has some models at 45 mp. > > One of the issues is cost, Zour sensor pixels need to be large enough to > capture a sufficient amount of photons in a short enough amount of time to be > useful, and that puts a (soft) lower limit on how small you can make your > pixels... Once your divided up your sensor are into the smalles reasonable > pixel size all you can do iso is increase sensor size and hence cost... > especially if I am correct in assuming that at one point you also need to > increase the diameter of your optics to "feed" the sensor properly. At which > point it is not only cost but also size... I'm talking about full frame high-end professional cameras (the ones where the body with no lens costs $8k or so). This has been consistant for over a decade. So I don't think it's a cost/manufacturing limit in place here. There are a lot of cameras made with smaller sensors in similar resolution, but very little at much higher resolutions. at the low end, you will see some small, higher resolution sensors, but those are for fixed lens cameras (like phones) where you use digital zoom David Lang