From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from snark.thyrsus.com (static-71-162-243-5.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [71.162.243.5]) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC787202103 for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 20:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by snark.thyrsus.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 915C34043E; Tue, 1 May 2012 23:33:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 23:33:45 -0400 From: "Eric S. Raymond" To: Dave Taht Message-ID: <20120502033345.GA11913@thyrsus.com> References: <20120501151435.4a6a5373.gem@rellim.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, gpsd-dev@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [Thumbgps-devel] [gpsd-dev] PPS over USB X-BeenThere: thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: esr@thyrsus.com List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 03:33:47 -0000 Dave Taht : > I'm a little confused. > > There are two threads going by today. One is about a sirfIII and the > other a ublox 6 > > I have been assuming they are one and the same, but perhaps I'm confused. You are. The first set of prototypes, from UniTraq, were SiRF-III + CP2101. These won't do - turns out the CP2101 driver can't wait on a handshake state change because the vendor never released enough programnming information. Gary is talking about the second set of prototypes, from NaviSys. That's the uBlox + PL2303 device. It works. The next step is to get them into volume production. > Secondly an item that has not been looked into much is the quality of > the antennas, or the quality of the clock source when only a single > sat is available.... Quality of antenna will matter for the device's ability to function in weak-signal conditions, e.g. indoors. Clock time should be OK even with a single sat - multiple birds are needed for the spherical trig to compute position, but atomic time you get directly from each sat sample. > Thirdly, wow.... when can I get one of these puppies to play with? Gary has three. He's keeping one and sending me the second. Since OpenBSD has no TICMIWAIT, Chris Kuethe is out of contention for the third and it should logically go to you. -- Eric S. Raymond