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From: "Ron Frazier (NTP)" <timekeepingntplist@c3energy.com>
Cc: thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Build vs. modify vs. what should we be doing anyway?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:29:49 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5EB11D.8050207@c3energy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFv7Oij-_DeihHyqWm3L2s=TJZMtqUOdSanYgqEQ96Z+DMZAWg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Regarding the sky view.  Maybe you can route the RF from an external 
antenna, or even an amplified antenna, after disconnecting the patch 
antenna.  I have a Globalsat BU-353 USB GPS, which is a Sirf III 
product.  It happily runs inside in a residential wood framed home.  
It's 10 feet away from the nearest window.  Except, it goes phycho every 
few days with large offsets for a few hours, then resumes normal 
operation.  The point being, the chipset is very sensitive and the patch 
antenna can do a pretty good job.  It would probably not work in a data 
closet in a commercial building.  The other point being, if you set up 
an external antenna, you can put your logic board where ever you want.

Sincerely,

Ron


On 3/12/2012 6:23 PM, tz wrote:
> OK, it is a 2 sided board, but you would have to find the 1PPS pin
> (and it looks hard to solder to), attach a wire and and route it
> somewhere - it is a SiRF III so has the larger jitter.
>
> Since the GPS patch antenna is on the board, the board would have to
> be in the sky view so you would have to run the PPS all the way to the
> router if one of the pins isn't DCD, CTS or some other line.
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Patrick Maupin<pmaupin@gmail.com>  wrote:
>    
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Eric S. Raymond<esr@thyrsus.com>  wrote:
>>      
>>> Sorry, my eyes aren't educated enough. (I'm an ex-mathematician; what
>>> relatively little I know about electronics design I've picked up by
>>> osmosis doing software). What does it say?
>>>        
>> It says:
>>
>> I am a very simple board.  My major components are:
>>
>> - USB module
>> - USB patch antenna
>> - Small PL2303 clone (fitting in with your lawsuit theory)
>> - Simple 5v ->  3.3v voltage regulator
>> - Coin cell battery
>> - Diode so as not to drain battery during operation
>> - USB connector
>>
>> There is nothing there that would require 4 layers, and all the
>> traces seem to "go somewhere".
>>      


-- 

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Ron Frazier
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-13  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-10 18:02 Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:03 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:18   ` tz
2012-03-12 21:26     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:28       ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:39         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 22:10           ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 22:23             ` tz
2012-03-12 22:33               ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-13  2:29               ` Ron Frazier (NTP) [this message]
2012-03-13  2:39                 ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-12 22:45             ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 23:01               ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  1:43                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13  2:04                   ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  2:13                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13  2:40                       ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  2:53                         ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  4:54                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13 13:23                           ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13 14:35                             ` tz
2012-03-13 16:04                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13 16:22                               ` tz
2012-03-13  2:38                 ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-03-13  2:42                   ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  3:00                     ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-03-13  3:04                       ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  3:06                         ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  3:16                           ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  3:31                             ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  4:49                               ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  4:55                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13  4:16                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:40         ` tz
2012-03-12 21:27     ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:22   ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:37     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:45       ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 22:02         ` Eric S. Raymond

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