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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Build vs. modify vs. what should we be doing anyway?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 16:01:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw5OUNiBx-_w5giZWhCrxuxUGk8uijcohQPDsWZwHKz8vw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120312224546.GA18404@thyrsus.com>

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> Patrick Maupin <pmaupin@gmail.com>:
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
>> > Sorry, my eyes aren't educated enough. (I'm an ex-mathematician; what
>> > relatively little I know about electronics design I've picked up by
>> > osmosis doing software). What does it say?
>>
>> It says:
>>
>> I am a very simple board.  My major components are:
>>
>> - USB module
>> - USB patch antenna
>> - Small PL2303 clone (fitting in with your lawsuit theory)

As noted elsewhere it might be cool to get away from serial emulation entirely.

>> - Simple 5v -> 3.3v voltage regulator
>> - Coin cell battery

I like the supercap idea more than the battery idea. I imagine (and I
may be wrong) - that that will have a longer field lifetime than a
battery could.

>> - Diode so as not to drain battery during operation
>> - USB connector
>
> Yes, I identified most of these myself.
>
>> There is nothing there that would require 4 layers, and all the
>> traces seem to "go somewhere".
>
> That is *exactly* what I thought when I looked at it.  Perhaps I am
> less clueless than I feared. :-)
>
> So, this is probably cloneable with relatively little effort, then?
>
>> There doesn't seem to be a real 8 pin SOIC PL2303.
>>
>> It almost certainly isn't illegal to clone one of these chips
>> (although there might be an infringed patent or two there, that isn't
>> necessarily true either).  It probably is illegal to exhort people to
>> download the copyrighted Windows PL2303 driver and use it with this.
>> Probably not a problem with Linux :-)
>
> At that, PL2303s are cheap.  This page
>
> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=pl2303+usb
>
> clues us that they're probably less than $2 a unit.
> --
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-12 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-10 18:02 Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:03 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:18   ` tz
2012-03-12 21:26     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:28       ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:39         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 22:10           ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 22:23             ` tz
2012-03-12 22:33               ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-13  2:29               ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-03-13  2:39                 ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-12 22:45             ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 23:01               ` Dave Taht [this message]
2012-03-13  1:43                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13  2:04                   ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  2:13                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13  2:40                       ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  2:53                         ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  4:54                         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13 13:23                           ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13 14:35                             ` tz
2012-03-13 16:04                             ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13 16:22                               ` tz
2012-03-13  2:38                 ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-03-13  2:42                   ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  3:00                     ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-03-13  3:04                       ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  3:06                         ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  3:16                           ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  3:31                             ` Chris Kuethe
2012-03-13  4:49                               ` Dave Taht
2012-03-13  4:55                               ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-13  4:16                     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:40         ` tz
2012-03-12 21:27     ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:22   ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 21:37     ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-03-12 21:45       ` Patrick Maupin
2012-03-12 22:02         ` Eric S. Raymond

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