[Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Dave Taht]

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Rob Thomas <xrobau@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 12:38 PM
Subject: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?
To: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>


The good news is, you now can!  After about 6 months of wrangling bits
and pieces together, "Honest" Rob's Used Car (and VoIP) Emporium has
finally managed to get a bunch of custom made GPS Shields built and
they are sitting right next to me here in Australia, suitable for
lego-esque construction of your own NTP server!

These are being sold at pretty much cost - AUD$30 ex - as a pro-bono
thing for those who want their very own Stratum 1 NTP server. All you
need to do is supply your own Raspberry Pi or equivalent - you just
need something with a clock speed over 1ghz and standard GPIO pins.

But wait, there's more! You don't NEED to buy this specific hardware -
if you already have a GPS device with a PPS signal, you can just fork
and hack on the repo that started this:

https://github.com/xrobau/rpi-ntp  (Note: that locks down SSH to key
only, and *only* puts my key in there, don't just run it blindly
without at least adding your ssh pubkey!)

This all started because we needed more IPv6 NTP servers in the Asia
Pacific region, and it was annoyingly hard to find plug-and-play
hardware. I'm really hoping that a bunch of you lot will buy a few,
and put them up as public servers with IPv6 addresses on ntppool.org.

https://freepbxhosting.com.au/s/gps-v1/

I also have them up on eBay, for $40 each, but that's for the public,
not for the cool kids club that is AusNog.

Currently I can only ship to AU and NZ, but that's purely because I'm
lazy and haven't figured out the costs. For those outside the North,
South and West islands of New Zealand, feel free to reach out to me
off list with your address and I'll figure something out.

--"Honest" Rob

_______________________________________________
AusNOG mailing list
AusNOG@ausnog.net
https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog


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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Gary E. Miller]

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Yo Dave!

Funny thing, I just checked shipping rate from AU to USA.  A fedEx
envelope fro Sydney to USA is A$92.  About US$62.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:08:00 -0800
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Rob Thomas <xrobau@gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 12:38 PM
> Subject: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?
> To: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> 
> 
> The good news is, you now can!  After about 6 months of wrangling bits
> and pieces together, "Honest" Rob's Used Car (and VoIP) Emporium has
> finally managed to get a bunch of custom made GPS Shields built and
> they are sitting right next to me here in Australia, suitable for
> lego-esque construction of your own NTP server!
> 
> These are being sold at pretty much cost - AUD$30 ex - as a pro-bono
> thing for those who want their very own Stratum 1 NTP server. All you
> need to do is supply your own Raspberry Pi or equivalent - you just
> need something with a clock speed over 1ghz and standard GPIO pins.
> 
> But wait, there's more! You don't NEED to buy this specific hardware -
> if you already have a GPS device with a PPS signal, you can just fork
> and hack on the repo that started this:
> 
> https://github.com/xrobau/rpi-ntp  (Note: that locks down SSH to key
> only, and *only* puts my key in there, don't just run it blindly
> without at least adding your ssh pubkey!)
> 
> This all started because we needed more IPv6 NTP servers in the Asia
> Pacific region, and it was annoyingly hard to find plug-and-play
> hardware. I'm really hoping that a bunch of you lot will buy a few,
> and put them up as public servers with IPv6 addresses on ntppool.org.
> 
> https://freepbxhosting.com.au/s/gps-v1/
> 
> I also have them up on eBay, for $40 each, but that's for the public,
> not for the cool kids club that is AusNog.
> 
> Currently I can only ship to AU and NZ, but that's purely because I'm
> lazy and haven't figured out the costs. For those outside the North,
> South and West islands of New Zealand, feel free to reach out to me
> off list with your address and I'll figure something out.
> 
> --"Honest" Rob
> 
> _______________________________________________
> AusNOG mailing list
> AusNOG@ausnog.net
> https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> 
> 




RGDS
GARY
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
	gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

	    Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
    "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin

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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Dave Taht]

it was nice to see someone else take up this cause. I imagine our gps
is no longer available?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:14 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
>
> Yo Dave!
>
> Funny thing, I just checked shipping rate from AU to USA.  A fedEx
> envelope fro Sydney to USA is A$92.  About US$62.
>
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:08:00 -0800
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Rob Thomas <xrobau@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 12:38 PM
> > Subject: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?
> > To: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> >
> >
> > The good news is, you now can!  After about 6 months of wrangling bits
> > and pieces together, "Honest" Rob's Used Car (and VoIP) Emporium has
> > finally managed to get a bunch of custom made GPS Shields built and
> > they are sitting right next to me here in Australia, suitable for
> > lego-esque construction of your own NTP server!
> >
> > These are being sold at pretty much cost - AUD$30 ex - as a pro-bono
> > thing for those who want their very own Stratum 1 NTP server. All you
> > need to do is supply your own Raspberry Pi or equivalent - you just
> > need something with a clock speed over 1ghz and standard GPIO pins.
> >
> > But wait, there's more! You don't NEED to buy this specific hardware -
> > if you already have a GPS device with a PPS signal, you can just fork
> > and hack on the repo that started this:
> >
> > https://github.com/xrobau/rpi-ntp  (Note: that locks down SSH to key
> > only, and *only* puts my key in there, don't just run it blindly
> > without at least adding your ssh pubkey!)
> >
> > This all started because we needed more IPv6 NTP servers in the Asia
> > Pacific region, and it was annoyingly hard to find plug-and-play
> > hardware. I'm really hoping that a bunch of you lot will buy a few,
> > and put them up as public servers with IPv6 addresses on ntppool.org.
> >
> > https://freepbxhosting.com.au/s/gps-v1/
> >
> > I also have them up on eBay, for $40 each, but that's for the public,
> > not for the cool kids club that is AusNog.
> >
> > Currently I can only ship to AU and NZ, but that's purely because I'm
> > lazy and haven't figured out the costs. For those outside the North,
> > South and West islands of New Zealand, feel free to reach out to me
> > off list with your address and I'll figure something out.
> >
> > --"Honest" Rob
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > AusNOG mailing list
> > AusNOG@ausnog.net
> > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> RGDS
> GARY
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
>         gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
>
>             Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
>     "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
> _______________________________________________
> Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel



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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Gary E. Miller]

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Yo Dave!

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:17:30 -0800
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> it was nice to see someone else take up this cause. I imagine our gps
> is no longer available?

Uh, "our GPS"?  Depending on your requirements, and a simple Stratum 1
does not have high requirements, there are 

Sparkfun has RasPi compatible GPS boards for $40, on up.


> 
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:14 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yo Dave!
> >
> > Funny thing, I just checked shipping rate from AU to USA.  A fedEx
> > envelope fro Sydney to USA is A$92.  About US$62.
> >
> > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:08:00 -0800
> > Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: Rob Thomas <xrobau@gmail.com>
> > > Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 12:38 PM
> > > Subject: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server,
> > > right? To: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> > >
> > >
> > > The good news is, you now can!  After about 6 months of wrangling
> > > bits and pieces together, "Honest" Rob's Used Car (and VoIP)
> > > Emporium has finally managed to get a bunch of custom made GPS
> > > Shields built and they are sitting right next to me here in
> > > Australia, suitable for lego-esque construction of your own NTP
> > > server!
> > >
> > > These are being sold at pretty much cost - AUD$30 ex - as a
> > > pro-bono thing for those who want their very own Stratum 1 NTP
> > > server. All you need to do is supply your own Raspberry Pi or
> > > equivalent - you just need something with a clock speed over 1ghz
> > > and standard GPIO pins.
> > >
> > > But wait, there's more! You don't NEED to buy this specific
> > > hardware - if you already have a GPS device with a PPS signal,
> > > you can just fork and hack on the repo that started this:
> > >
> > > https://github.com/xrobau/rpi-ntp  (Note: that locks down SSH to
> > > key only, and *only* puts my key in there, don't just run it
> > > blindly without at least adding your ssh pubkey!)
> > >
> > > This all started because we needed more IPv6 NTP servers in the
> > > Asia Pacific region, and it was annoyingly hard to find
> > > plug-and-play hardware. I'm really hoping that a bunch of you lot
> > > will buy a few, and put them up as public servers with IPv6
> > > addresses on ntppool.org.
> > >
> > > https://freepbxhosting.com.au/s/gps-v1/
> > >
> > > I also have them up on eBay, for $40 each, but that's for the
> > > public, not for the cool kids club that is AusNog.
> > >
> > > Currently I can only ship to AU and NZ, but that's purely because
> > > I'm lazy and haven't figured out the costs. For those outside the
> > > North, South and West islands of New Zealand, feel free to reach
> > > out to me off list with your address and I'll figure something
> > > out.
> > >
> > > --"Honest" Rob
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > AusNOG@ausnog.net
> > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> > >
> > >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RGDS
> > GARY
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR
> > 97703 gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
> >
> >             Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
> >     "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
> > _______________________________________________
> > Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> > Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel  
> 
> 
> 




RGDS
GARY
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
	gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

	    Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
    "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin

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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Dave Taht]

The macx-1 appears to have dropped off the market.

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:24 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
>
> Yo Dave!
>
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:17:30 -0800
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > it was nice to see someone else take up this cause. I imagine our gps
> > is no longer available?
>
> Uh, "our GPS"?  Depending on your requirements, and a simple Stratum 1
> does not have high requirements, there are
>
> Sparkfun has RasPi compatible GPS boards for $40, on up.
>
>
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:14 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yo Dave!
> > >
> > > Funny thing, I just checked shipping rate from AU to USA.  A fedEx
> > > envelope fro Sydney to USA is A$92.  About US$62.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:08:00 -0800
> > > Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > > From: Rob Thomas <xrobau@gmail.com>
> > > > Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 12:38 PM
> > > > Subject: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server,
> > > > right? To: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The good news is, you now can!  After about 6 months of wrangling
> > > > bits and pieces together, "Honest" Rob's Used Car (and VoIP)
> > > > Emporium has finally managed to get a bunch of custom made GPS
> > > > Shields built and they are sitting right next to me here in
> > > > Australia, suitable for lego-esque construction of your own NTP
> > > > server!
> > > >
> > > > These are being sold at pretty much cost - AUD$30 ex - as a
> > > > pro-bono thing for those who want their very own Stratum 1 NTP
> > > > server. All you need to do is supply your own Raspberry Pi or
> > > > equivalent - you just need something with a clock speed over 1ghz
> > > > and standard GPIO pins.
> > > >
> > > > But wait, there's more! You don't NEED to buy this specific
> > > > hardware - if you already have a GPS device with a PPS signal,
> > > > you can just fork and hack on the repo that started this:
> > > >
> > > > https://github.com/xrobau/rpi-ntp  (Note: that locks down SSH to
> > > > key only, and *only* puts my key in there, don't just run it
> > > > blindly without at least adding your ssh pubkey!)
> > > >
> > > > This all started because we needed more IPv6 NTP servers in the
> > > > Asia Pacific region, and it was annoyingly hard to find
> > > > plug-and-play hardware. I'm really hoping that a bunch of you lot
> > > > will buy a few, and put them up as public servers with IPv6
> > > > addresses on ntppool.org.
> > > >
> > > > https://freepbxhosting.com.au/s/gps-v1/
> > > >
> > > > I also have them up on eBay, for $40 each, but that's for the
> > > > public, not for the cool kids club that is AusNog.
> > > >
> > > > Currently I can only ship to AU and NZ, but that's purely because
> > > > I'm lazy and haven't figured out the costs. For those outside the
> > > > North, South and West islands of New Zealand, feel free to reach
> > > > out to me off list with your address and I'll figure something
> > > > out.
> > > >
> > > > --"Honest" Rob
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > > AusNOG@ausnog.net
> > > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > RGDS
> > > GARY
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR
> > > 97703 gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
> > >
> > >             Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
> > >     "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> > > Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> RGDS
> GARY
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
>         gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
>
>             Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
>     "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
> _______________________________________________
> Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel



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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time server, right?

[Gary E. Miller]

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Yo Dave!

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:26:15 -0800
Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> The macx-1 appears to have dropped off the market.

That was USB, so marginal for Stratum 1 useage.  And is now pretty old.
Newer GNSS receivers, both USB, and serial, are much better.  OTOH,
avainalability has not been god since COVID.

> 
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:24 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yo Dave!
> >
> > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:17:30 -0800
> > Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  
> > > it was nice to see someone else take up this cause. I imagine our
> > > gps is no longer available?  
> >
> > Uh, "our GPS"?  Depending on your requirements, and a simple
> > Stratum 1 does not have high requirements, there are
> >
> > Sparkfun has RasPi compatible GPS boards for $40, on up.
> >
> >  
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 3:14 PM Gary E. Miller <gem@rellim.com>
> > > wrote:  
> > > >
> > > > Yo Dave!
> > > >
> > > > Funny thing, I just checked shipping rate from AU to USA.  A
> > > > fedEx envelope fro Sydney to USA is A$92.  About US$62.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 15:08:00 -0800
> > > > Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > > > From: Rob Thomas <xrobau@gmail.com>
> > > > > Date: Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 12:38 PM
> > > > > Subject: [AusNOG] EVERYONE should have a Stratum 1 time
> > > > > server, right? To: <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> > > > > <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The good news is, you now can!  After about 6 months of
> > > > > wrangling bits and pieces together, "Honest" Rob's Used Car
> > > > > (and VoIP) Emporium has finally managed to get a bunch of
> > > > > custom made GPS Shields built and they are sitting right next
> > > > > to me here in Australia, suitable for lego-esque construction
> > > > > of your own NTP server!
> > > > >
> > > > > These are being sold at pretty much cost - AUD$30 ex - as a
> > > > > pro-bono thing for those who want their very own Stratum 1 NTP
> > > > > server. All you need to do is supply your own Raspberry Pi or
> > > > > equivalent - you just need something with a clock speed over
> > > > > 1ghz and standard GPIO pins.
> > > > >
> > > > > But wait, there's more! You don't NEED to buy this specific
> > > > > hardware - if you already have a GPS device with a PPS signal,
> > > > > you can just fork and hack on the repo that started this:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://github.com/xrobau/rpi-ntp  (Note: that locks down SSH
> > > > > to key only, and *only* puts my key in there, don't just run
> > > > > it blindly without at least adding your ssh pubkey!)
> > > > >
> > > > > This all started because we needed more IPv6 NTP servers in
> > > > > the Asia Pacific region, and it was annoyingly hard to find
> > > > > plug-and-play hardware. I'm really hoping that a bunch of you
> > > > > lot will buy a few, and put them up as public servers with
> > > > > IPv6 addresses on ntppool.org.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://freepbxhosting.com.au/s/gps-v1/
> > > > >
> > > > > I also have them up on eBay, for $40 each, but that's for the
> > > > > public, not for the cool kids club that is AusNog.
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently I can only ship to AU and NZ, but that's purely
> > > > > because I'm lazy and haven't figured out the costs. For those
> > > > > outside the North, South and West islands of New Zealand,
> > > > > feel free to reach out to me off list with your address and
> > > > > I'll figure something out.
> > > > >
> > > > > --"Honest" Rob
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > AusNOG mailing list
> > > > > AusNOG@ausnog.net
> > > > > https://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog
> > > > >
> > > > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RGDS
> > > > GARY
> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR
> > > > 97703 gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
> > > >
> > > >             Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
> > > >     "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord
> > > > Kelvin _______________________________________________
> > > > Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> > > > Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel  
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > RGDS
> > GARY
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR
> > 97703 gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588
> >
> >             Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
> >     "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin
> > _______________________________________________
> > Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> > Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel  
> 
> 
> 




RGDS
GARY
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
	gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

	    Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?
    "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin

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