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From: tz <tz2026@gmail.com>
To: esr@thyrsus.com
Cc: thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, gpsd-dev@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Thumbgps-devel] [gpsd-dev] PPS over USB
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:09:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFv7Oigy9Zi6z8rxjefeMFgACv13JzDbEmAh69mo7NwTB08wBg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120502033345.GA11913@thyrsus.com>

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SkyTraq has a different version of the 638 (not just different firmware)
that emits corrections to the pps edge to go to 10nS, and after a lock it
will work down to 1 satellite and maintain accurate pps.

I don't know of any others that retain pps if they don't have a 3d lock.

The antenna is important but it won't overcome an obscured view of the sky
- at best you will get multipath or other errors with the weak signals.
On May 1, 2012 11:33 PM, "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:

> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>:
> > I'm a little confused.
> >
> > There are two threads going by today. One is about a sirfIII and the
> > other a ublox 6
> >
> > I have been assuming they are one and the same, but perhaps I'm confused.
>
> You are.  The first set of prototypes, from UniTraq, were SiRF-III +
> CP2101.
> These won't do - turns out the CP2101 driver can't wait on a handshake
> state
> change because the vendor never released enough programnming information.
>
> Gary is talking about the second set of prototypes, from NaviSys.
> That's the uBlox + PL2303 device.  It works.  The next step is to
> get them into volume production.
>
> > Secondly an item that has not been looked into much is the quality of
> > the antennas, or the quality of the clock source when only a single
> > sat is available....
>
> Quality of antenna will matter for the device's ability to function in
> weak-signal conditions, e.g. indoors.  Clock time should be OK even with
> a single sat - multiple birds are needed for the spherical trig to compute
> position, but atomic time you get directly from each sat sample.
>
> > Thirdly, wow.... when can I get one of these puppies to play with?
>
> Gary has three.  He's keeping one and sending me the second.  Since OpenBSD
> has no TICMIWAIT, Chris Kuethe is out of contention for the third and it
> should logically go to you.
> --
>                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-02 11:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20120501151435.4a6a5373.gem@rellim.com>
2012-05-01 22:16 ` [Thumbgps-devel] Fwd: " Dave Taht
2012-05-02  1:40 ` [Thumbgps-devel] " Dave Taht
2012-05-02  3:07   ` Jim Thompson
2012-05-02  3:33   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-02  7:58     ` Hal Murray
2012-05-06 21:28       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-02 11:09     ` tz [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20120502131310.7dd7f799.gem@rellim.com>
2012-05-02 20:33         ` tz
2012-05-02 21:19         ` Hal Murray
2012-05-02 21:43           ` tz
2012-05-02 13:40     ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
     [not found]       ` <20120502124227.28ef9fa6.gem@rellim.com>
2012-05-03  4:07         ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-05-06 22:09       ` Eric S. Raymond
     [not found] ` <4FA43068.2080606@wildgooses.com>
     [not found]   ` <20120504160455.4514ac26.gem@rellim.com>
     [not found]     ` <20120506214138.GB14699@thyrsus.com>
     [not found]       ` <4FA6F396.70307@tmsw.no>
     [not found]         ` <4FA7BDF1.7030708@wildgooses.com>
     [not found]           ` <4FA7CFB2.9080807@tmsw.no>
     [not found]             ` <4FA7E197.9010902@wildgooses.com>
     [not found]               ` <20120507205843.GA21259@thyrsus.com>
2012-05-07 21:14                 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-07 21:52                   ` Eric S. Raymond

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