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From: tz <thomas@mich.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	veronica <veronica@navisys.com.tw>,
	tcf@navisys.com.tw, Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw>,
	gloria@navisys.com.tw, lily <lily@navisys.com.tw>
Subject: Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Article -- Macx-1: GPS receiver with standard USB connector and PPS support
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 13:12:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFv7OihBDpT20Rnqy4J4_GvGzJwzU==H1KWy2fAVX24A7nwP=Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6gVxEg+gHC66n3p4kf-2X7eMMGO6OW1toY6htx1HBSsg@mail.gmail.com>

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For a given size (and circuit board footprint) a supercap will have much
less capacity and it has an exponential voltage decay curve, so it might
have plenty of charge but not at a voltage that will hold the data.  This
usually means hours, not days of backup.

A good rechargeable lithium will last several years, maybe longer as there
will be no charge/discharge, maintains voltage until it is nearly
exhausted, and can hold the data for days or weeks.

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> > Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>:
> >> What would be the change in cost and delay in manufacturing to switch to
> >> using a supercap, rather than battery?
> >
> > Why would a supercap be better?
>
> Effective lifetime of... forever. no need for replacement. insanely
> fast recharge. smaller (probably). What's not to like?
>
> I am not in a huge hurry to get into manufacturing, and I merely
> wanted to cost out what what it would do to the bom, any changes to
> the PCB, and get an estimate for the time it would take to do. I think
> it will bump the unit cost up slightly,
> but what price, forever?
>
> > --
> >                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
>
>
>
> --
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-09 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  6:43 Jau-Yang Chen
2012-05-09 15:23 ` tz
2012-05-09 16:39 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 16:47   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-09 16:55     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 17:02       ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-09 17:12       ` tz [this message]
2012-05-09 17:50         ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-05-09 18:21           ` tz
2012-05-09 18:35             ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:41               ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-05-09 20:46                 ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 20:58                   ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-05-09 20:59                     ` Dave Taht
2012-05-09 22:57                       ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-05-09 21:14                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-09 22:30                   ` tz
2012-05-09 19:43 ` Dave Hart
2012-05-09 20:37   ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-09 21:03     ` Dave Hart
2012-05-09 21:18       ` Ron Frazier (NTP)
2012-05-09 21:38         ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-09 22:02           ` Dave Hart
2012-05-10  6:31             ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-10  7:28               ` Dave Hart
2012-05-10 14:55               ` tz
2012-05-10 17:59                 ` Eric S. Raymond
2012-05-09 21:20       ` Eric S. Raymond

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