[Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[Eric S. Raymond]

From Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw>
>                 It will be great and much appreciated if we could have a
> channel to sell this winning product in Amazon.

Working on it.  But no result yet - I may have to go through several 
links in a chain of references.

> We plan to put an article as attached on our website for advertisement.
> Could you please review and comment?

Have reviewed.  You can quote any of that you like.

>                            It will be helpful to promote Macx-1
> USB GPS receiver if you could also put it in the website of your
> SIG/project.

Done. Find it on <http://catb.org/gpsd/hardware.html>

Also note that once we confirm a U.S. retail partner for you guys I
will promote the product on my blog and Google+.  As I have over
18,000 blog and G+ followers with a heavy concentration among
programmers and engineers who are likely GPS customers, this is
exposure many vendors would kill for.  I have never plugged a
product before; this will be your reward for a job very well done.

The market you will be selling the Macx-1 into is much more interested 
in detailed technical information about the device than you are probably
used to.  The datasheet for this device should list the exact uBlox 
chip or module it uses, the NMEA version, and (most importantly!) a
link to programming information about the GPS engine - uBlox's technical 
manual on programming the chip would do.  

One of our people already mentioned turning off the dead-reckoning feature
so the device won't emit PPS after it has lost lock. One reason to link 
to the technical manual is so we can determine if this is really an issue; 
it might be the firmware stops emitting PPS in dead-reckoning mode, and
that's exactly the sort of detail Macx-1 customers will be interested in.

Another one of our people, Dave Taht, has inquired about customized 
cases.  That gives me an interesting marketing idea.  Look at the
GPSD project logo at <http://catb.org/gpsd/gpsd-logo-small.png>. That's
a Linux penguin with GPS satellites orbiting it.  You might want to
think about doing a batch of these with the logo on the case - with
a little promotion they'd probably sell like crazy to Linux fans.

My offer to review and improve the English version of your technical 
documentation is still open.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[Dave Taht]

I too have an interesting product marketing idea, utilizing the cerowrt logo
and some text pointing back to the bufferbloat project and ntp analysis
project's web site(s).

It looks good on black. Some prototypes here (I owe thorsten big time
for the designs)

http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~d/logos/cerowrt.png

Can work on it harder. I'm seriously mindblown as to the rapidity as
to which all of this has happened.

If we could do gpsd on one side and CeroWrt on the other, we'd not
have to do separate silkscreening runs. But I'm easy about it, (and
still seriously mindblown)

And I'm not huge on black.

JG and I don't have quite the exposure esr gets, but it's wider.


On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:14 AM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> From Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw>
>>                 It will be great and much appreciated if we could have a
>> channel to sell this winning product in Amazon.
>
> Working on it.  But no result yet - I may have to go through several
> links in a chain of references.
>
>> We plan to put an article as attached on our website for advertisement.
>> Could you please review and comment?
>
> Have reviewed.  You can quote any of that you like.
>
>>                            It will be helpful to promote Macx-1
>> USB GPS receiver if you could also put it in the website of your
>> SIG/project.
>
> Done. Find it on <http://catb.org/gpsd/hardware.html>
>
> Also note that once we confirm a U.S. retail partner for you guys I
> will promote the product on my blog and Google+.  As I have over
> 18,000 blog and G+ followers with a heavy concentration among
> programmers and engineers who are likely GPS customers, this is
> exposure many vendors would kill for.  I have never plugged a
> product before; this will be your reward for a job very well done.
>
> The market you will be selling the Macx-1 into is much more interested
> in detailed technical information about the device than you are probably
> used to.  The datasheet for this device should list the exact uBlox
> chip or module it uses, the NMEA version, and (most importantly!) a
> link to programming information about the GPS engine - uBlox's technical
> manual on programming the chip would do.
>
> One of our people already mentioned turning off the dead-reckoning feature
> so the device won't emit PPS after it has lost lock. One reason to link
> to the technical manual is so we can determine if this is really an issue;
> it might be the firmware stops emitting PPS in dead-reckoning mode, and
> that's exactly the sort of detail Macx-1 customers will be interested in.
>
> Another one of our people, Dave Taht, has inquired about customized
> cases.  That gives me an interesting marketing idea.  Look at the
> GPSD project logo at <http://catb.org/gpsd/gpsd-logo-small.png>. That's
> a Linux penguin with GPS satellites orbiting it.  You might want to
> think about doing a batch of these with the logo on the case - with
> a little promotion they'd probably sell like crazy to Linux fans.
>
> My offer to review and improve the English version of your technical
> documentation is still open.
> --
>                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
> _______________________________________________
> Thumbgps-devel mailing list
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http://www.bufferbloat.net

Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[Eric S. Raymond]

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>:
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~d/logos/cerowrt.png

Nice.

I think the main variable you need to optimize is the number of colors
in the final version.  Fewer will be less expensive, on all prunted media.
Looks like some variants pull it down to 4 + black.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[Dave Taht]

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Eric S. Raymond <esr@thyrsus.com> wrote:
> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>:
>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~d/logos/cerowrt.png
>
> Nice.
>
> I think the main variable you need to optimize is the number of colors
> in the final version.  Fewer will be less expensive, on all prunted media.

I wouldn't mind going for a 3d effect somehow with blender.

And I like the idea of combining this with the existing gpsd logo.

As much as I like tux, gpsd runs on everything, so does codel, so
we can lose the penguin...

> Looks like some variants pull it down to 4 + black.

Well, it's also the number of effective pixels available on the
silkscreen and the overall area available on dongle.

This was the satellite I worked on. It wasn't pretty but it ran linux.
I liked it.

http://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/trailblazer.htm

I can probably find higher resolution imagery in a model for it, but I
do have to admit the gps sats are prettier.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gps+satellite+image&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=ubuntu&channel=fs

> --
>                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>



-- 
Dave Täht
SKYPE: davetaht
US Tel: 1-239-829-5608
http://www.bufferbloat.net

[Thumbgps-devel] Improving the GPSD logo?

[Eric S. Raymond]

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>:
> As much as I like tux, gpsd runs on everything, so does codel, so
> we can lose the penguin...

I'm not really attached to the penguin.  The GPSD logo looks the way
it does because I'm not a visual artist - I swiped that image from a
defunct open-source project (some kind of solver library that I only
vaguely remember) removed some obtrusive text from Tux's tummy, and
fixed up some other details.

Trouble is, I haven't thought up anything compelling to replace it -
nor has anyone made a better suggestion.  The Open Source logo is a
flat graphic that wouldn't mix well visually with an image of a GPS
satellite.

Copying this to the GPSD dev list, maybe someone there will have a
creative brainstorm....
--
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[Jau-Yang Chen]

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Dear Eric,

Thanks again for your kind support. It's our responsibility to provide the
good performance product with better quality to our customers. It's really
the great reward for all of your help to promote Macx-1.

For dead-reckoning and 1PPS issue, we will double check and come back to
you.

The data sheet of GR-601 is also attached. You are much appreciated to
review and improve it.

Best regards,

JY

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric S. Raymond [mailto:esr@thyrsus.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:14 AM
To: cjy@navisys.com.tw
Cc: 'veronica'; tcf@navisys.com.tw; thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net;
'lily'; gloria@navisys.com.tw
Subject: Promoting the Macx-1

From Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw>
>                 It will be great and much appreciated if we could have 
>a  channel to sell this winning product in Amazon.

Working on it.  But no result yet - I may have to go through several links
in a chain of references.

> We plan to put an article as attached on our website for advertisement.
> Could you please review and comment?

Have reviewed.  You can quote any of that you like.

>                            It will be helpful to promote Macx-1 USB 
> GPS receiver if you could also put it in the website of your 
> SIG/project.

Done. Find it on <http://catb.org/gpsd/hardware.html>

Also note that once we confirm a U.S. retail partner for you guys I will
promote the product on my blog and Google+.  As I have over
18,000 blog and G+ followers with a heavy concentration among programmers
and engineers who are likely GPS customers, this is exposure many vendors
would kill for.  I have never plugged a product before; this will be your
reward for a job very well done.

The market you will be selling the Macx-1 into is much more interested in
detailed technical information about the device than you are probably used
to.  The datasheet for this device should list the exact uBlox chip or
module it uses, the NMEA version, and (most importantly!) a link to
programming information about the GPS engine - uBlox's technical manual on
programming the chip would do.  

One of our people already mentioned turning off the dead-reckoning feature
so the device won't emit PPS after it has lost lock. One reason to link to
the technical manual is so we can determine if this is really an issue; it
might be the firmware stops emitting PPS in dead-reckoning mode, and that's
exactly the sort of detail Macx-1 customers will be interested in.

Another one of our people, Dave Taht, has inquired about customized cases.
That gives me an interesting marketing idea.  Look at the GPSD project logo
at <http://catb.org/gpsd/gpsd-logo-small.png>. That's a Linux penguin with
GPS satellites orbiting it.  You might want to think about doing a batch of
these with the logo on the case - with a little promotion they'd probably
sell like crazy to Linux fans.

My offer to review and improve the English version of your technical
documentation is still open.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>

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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[tz]

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The Ublox 6 document (page 136) has "Align to UTC" for the messages and the
option to change the rate.

It would be interesting to compare the jitter and offset with this set and
not using PPS>

And there is a lot of discussion on dead reckoning.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw> wrote:

> Dear Eric,
>
> Thanks again for your kind support. It's our responsibility to provide the
> good performance product with better quality to our customers. It's really
> the great reward for all of your help to promote Macx-1.
>
> For dead-reckoning and 1PPS issue, we will double check and come back to
> you.
>
> The data sheet of GR-601 is also attached. You are much appreciated to
> review and improve it.
>
> Best regards,
>
> JY
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric S. Raymond [mailto:esr@thyrsus.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:14 AM
> To: cjy@navisys.com.tw
> Cc: 'veronica'; tcf@navisys.com.tw; thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net;
> 'lily'; gloria@navisys.com.tw
> Subject: Promoting the Macx-1
>
> >From Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw>
> >                 It will be great and much appreciated if we could have
> >a  channel to sell this winning product in Amazon.
>
> Working on it.  But no result yet - I may have to go through several links
> in a chain of references.
>
> > We plan to put an article as attached on our website for advertisement.
> > Could you please review and comment?
>
> Have reviewed.  You can quote any of that you like.
>
> >                            It will be helpful to promote Macx-1 USB
> > GPS receiver if you could also put it in the website of your
> > SIG/project.
>
> Done. Find it on <http://catb.org/gpsd/hardware.html>
>
> Also note that once we confirm a U.S. retail partner for you guys I will
> promote the product on my blog and Google+.  As I have over
> 18,000 blog and G+ followers with a heavy concentration among programmers
> and engineers who are likely GPS customers, this is exposure many vendors
> would kill for.  I have never plugged a product before; this will be your
> reward for a job very well done.
>
> The market you will be selling the Macx-1 into is much more interested in
> detailed technical information about the device than you are probably used
> to.  The datasheet for this device should list the exact uBlox chip or
> module it uses, the NMEA version, and (most importantly!) a link to
> programming information about the GPS engine - uBlox's technical manual on
> programming the chip would do.
>
> One of our people already mentioned turning off the dead-reckoning feature
> so the device won't emit PPS after it has lost lock. One reason to link to
> the technical manual is so we can determine if this is really an issue; it
> might be the firmware stops emitting PPS in dead-reckoning mode, and that's
> exactly the sort of detail Macx-1 customers will be interested in.
>
> Another one of our people, Dave Taht, has inquired about customized cases.
> That gives me an interesting marketing idea.  Look at the GPSD project logo
> at <http://catb.org/gpsd/gpsd-logo-small.png>. That's a Linux penguin with
> GPS satellites orbiting it.  You might want to think about doing a batch of
> these with the logo on the case - with a little promotion they'd probably
> sell like crazy to Linux fans.
>
> My offer to review and improve the English version of your technical
> documentation is still open.
> --
>                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Thumbgps-devel mailing list
> Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel
>
>

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Re: [Thumbgps-devel] Promoting the Macx-1

[tz]

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Apparently you can't get to any drivers or software without a "login".  I
don't know if there are any opensource configuration utilities - but that
doesn't help if you need a driver.

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:57 AM, tz <thomas@mich.com> wrote:

> The Ublox 6 document (page 136) has "Align to UTC" for the messages and
> the option to change the rate.
>
> It would be interesting to compare the jitter and offset with this set and
> not using PPS>
>
> And there is a lot of discussion on dead reckoning.
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw> wrote:
>
>> Dear Eric,
>>
>> Thanks again for your kind support. It's our responsibility to provide the
>> good performance product with better quality to our customers. It's really
>> the great reward for all of your help to promote Macx-1.
>>
>> For dead-reckoning and 1PPS issue, we will double check and come back to
>> you.
>>
>> The data sheet of GR-601 is also attached. You are much appreciated to
>> review and improve it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> JY
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric S. Raymond [mailto:esr@thyrsus.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:14 AM
>> To: cjy@navisys.com.tw
>> Cc: 'veronica'; tcf@navisys.com.tw; thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net;
>> 'lily'; gloria@navisys.com.tw
>> Subject: Promoting the Macx-1
>>
>> >From Jau-Yang Chen <cjy@navisys.com.tw>
>> >                 It will be great and much appreciated if we could have
>> >a  channel to sell this winning product in Amazon.
>>
>> Working on it.  But no result yet - I may have to go through several links
>> in a chain of references.
>>
>> > We plan to put an article as attached on our website for advertisement.
>> > Could you please review and comment?
>>
>> Have reviewed.  You can quote any of that you like.
>>
>> >                            It will be helpful to promote Macx-1 USB
>> > GPS receiver if you could also put it in the website of your
>> > SIG/project.
>>
>> Done. Find it on <http://catb.org/gpsd/hardware.html>
>>
>> Also note that once we confirm a U.S. retail partner for you guys I will
>> promote the product on my blog and Google+.  As I have over
>> 18,000 blog and G+ followers with a heavy concentration among programmers
>> and engineers who are likely GPS customers, this is exposure many vendors
>> would kill for.  I have never plugged a product before; this will be your
>> reward for a job very well done.
>>
>> The market you will be selling the Macx-1 into is much more interested in
>> detailed technical information about the device than you are probably used
>> to.  The datasheet for this device should list the exact uBlox chip or
>> module it uses, the NMEA version, and (most importantly!) a link to
>> programming information about the GPS engine - uBlox's technical manual on
>> programming the chip would do.
>>
>> One of our people already mentioned turning off the dead-reckoning feature
>> so the device won't emit PPS after it has lost lock. One reason to link to
>> the technical manual is so we can determine if this is really an issue; it
>> might be the firmware stops emitting PPS in dead-reckoning mode, and
>> that's
>> exactly the sort of detail Macx-1 customers will be interested in.
>>
>> Another one of our people, Dave Taht, has inquired about customized cases.
>> That gives me an interesting marketing idea.  Look at the GPSD project
>> logo
>> at <http://catb.org/gpsd/gpsd-logo-small.png>. That's a Linux penguin
>> with
>> GPS satellites orbiting it.  You might want to think about doing a batch
>> of
>> these with the logo on the case - with a little promotion they'd probably
>> sell like crazy to Linux fans.
>>
>> My offer to review and improve the English version of your technical
>> documentation is still open.
>> --
>>                <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Thumbgps-devel mailing list
>> Thumbgps-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/thumbgps-devel
>>
>>
>

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