[Bloat] First-time install on brand new WNDR3700v2 not working

Petri Rosenström petri.rosenstrom at gmail.com
Fri Nov 4 06:45:09 EDT 2011


Hi Maxim,

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs at podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
> Hi Petri,
>
> I used
> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/cerowrt-wndr3700-1.0rc6/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img

Does your router report that it has 128mb of RAM? i.e. from the
webinterface or from command line (i.e. free or /proc/memstat). I
think that I have tried the similar images with no success. In my case
it required the wndr3800 image, i.e.
http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3800-squashfs-factory.img

> image, to be precise. It works with wndr3800 (apart from those flashing
> problems I described).
> I'm getting ge00 issues in all three cases: a) PPPoE on ge00 directly
> connected to the ADSL modem; b) DHCP on ge00 connected to the main router
> with ipv6 support; c) DHCP on ge00 connected to an old router without ipv6
> support.

This is weird. I think you should report this issue and try to
describe it as well as you can. This sounds as a bug. But I would
recommend to test this first with a newer image. Cerowrt moves pretty
fast forward and this could have been fixed already. You should check
also that there are not similar issues already reported. I tried to
look, but I didn't find any that fits your description.

> Couldn't find libposlib.so.1 neither in the file system nor in the packages.
> But even if I could, I suspect that dibbler client is not a proper solution.
> Openwrt docs suggest using wide-dhcpv6-client which doesn't exist on the
> opkg list either.

Well well. I am no expert, but I would say that this might be useful
to add to the packages of Cerowrt (Feature request to the tracker). It
seems that Openwrt includes the package
(http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/wide-dhcpv6-client_20080615-7_ar71xx.ipk),
again I don't recommend using this package, even though I suspect that
it would work.

> All those issues are not a big deal, actually. The main thing is that I
> don't know what to do with this router now. It's not ready to become my main
> one, but I still want to conduct some experiments with it. Any ideas of what
> could be useful?

I have similar issues, I think that CeroWRT shows great promise, but I
break my router too often for it to be my main one. I have been
playing around with the thought of specifying a set of tests to
perform on the router. So we could see that we are going into the
right direction. I think that David is working on this but he is quite
busy :) and I think that there is a bug about it on the tracker, but I
didn't find it.

If you have a powerful machine (CPU power) and spare time, one
suggestion would be to build your own version of Cerowrt. Instructions
can be found at
http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Building_Cerowrt_on_your_own_machine
. If you are succesful with these instructions you could add
information to the bug about it http://www.bufferbloat.net/issues/282
. This way you could include the modeswitch and dhcp packages. If you
are not familiar with building Cero/OpenWRT you could find more
information from http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/build . Most
important information is that by using command make menuconfig you can
add and/or remove packages from the image and the packages listing.
(If you want to use the optional packages (those with M in the name
not those with *) you need to change the link in /etc/opkg.conf.

--
best regards
Petri

>
> Thanks,
> Max
>
> On 4 November 2011 21:37, Petri Rosenström <petri.rosenstrom at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Maxim,
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Maxim Kharlamov <mcs at podsolnuh.biz> wrote:
>> > Hi Dave,
>> >
>> > Well, at least for rc6 jffs2 factory image the tftp update method didn't
>> > work. I tried many times and tried renaming the image file - no luck
>> > (file
>> > transferred but completely ignored). Maybe it's a quirk of wndr3800,
>> > don't
>> > know.
>> You probably mean rc7-smoketest6, because rc6 doesn't include image
>> for the wndr3800. I didn't get the wndr3700v2 images to work they
>> required the small patch for it to work.
>>
>> > After installing openwrt I uploaded cerowrt rc6 factory squashfs image.
>> > Did
>> > you mean that I should've uploaded sysupgrade version instead?
>>
>> You should have could used it, if you tried from the webinterface. I
>> at least was successful with this. btw. I run jffs2 image.
>>
>> I have only had a few issues, but I hope that are already fixed. I
>> just have to tests it. My issues are related to bug 291. This patch
>> might be in rc7-smoketest8.
>>
>> >
>> > First impressions:
>> > * Ge00 interface not getting up automatically. Every time I restart the
>> > router, I need to do 'ifup ge00' or bring it up via web interface.
>> I haven't these issues. My first feeling is that this could be related
>> to your ISPs IPv6. btw have you tried the latest image and do you have
>> this issue if you are connected to your (other) router and directly to
>> the ISP?
>>
>> > * Lack of opkg packages: I installed kmod-usb-serial, but couldn't find
>> > kmod-usb-serial-option, usb-modeswitch, usb-modeswitch-data or sdparm;
>> > consequently, couldn't get my 3g dongle to work. Cerowrt sees it as a
>> > usb
>> > cd-rom.
>> >    If I remove kmod-usb-storage, it kinda sees it as a usb serial
>> > device,
>> > but cannot do anything with it.
>> I also have a 3G usb-dongle. I'll try this tomorrow. They are probably
>> not built as packages, because I think that they are in the sources.
>> Maybe file a feature request in the
>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/issues . Otherwise there
>> are similar packages in
>> http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ar71xx/packages/ but I
>> say don't use them :)
>>
>> > * DHCPv6-PD isn't supported. Looks like it is scheduled for 1.2? My ISP
>> > uses
>> > DHCPv6-PD to delegate /48 ipv6 prefixes. Meanwhile I installed
>> > dibbler-client, but can't run it: "can't load library 'libposlib.so.1'"
>> I would recommend that you verify that you don't have this file on the
>> filesystem (find / -name libposlib.so.1). Then you could search for
>> the file with (pkg search \* libposlib.so.1). And if it finds it
>> install the missing package and retry.
>>
>> >    When I connected the router to my main ipv6 enabled router, it was
>> > able
>> > to pick the ipv6, but something still wrong with the dns - it only works
>> > for
>> > ipv4. Not sure exactly what is happening.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Max
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 4 November 2011 03:22, Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Wow. 3 flashers in one day. (there is no specific cerowrt list, this is
>> >> as
>> >> good a place as any, at least for now)
>> >>
>> >> I will try to improve the flashing instructions but to clarify here:
>> >>
>> >> the 'FACTORY' images are are for installing when you have factory
>> >> firmware
>> >> installed. Usually, but *not always*, you can install that via the
>> >> factory
>> >> web interface, but always, you can install via a tftp update.
>> >>
>> >> The 'SYSUPGRADE' images are for when you have a prior version of
>> >> openwrt,
>> >> cerowrt, dd-wrt, etc, already installed.
>> >>
>> >> JFFS2 vs squashfs is a matter of personal choice. If you plan to do
>> >> lots
>> >> of development or coding on the router, go with jffs2. Otherwise
>> >> squashfs
>> >> saves space.
>> >>
>> >> I'm really delighted to see people trying cerowrt out (and all on a day
>> >> while I was offline!). I look forward to any feedback you might have.
>> >> (bugs,
>> >> features on the wiki please)
>> >>
>> >> but: I have to note that although rc7-smoketest8 is proving out pretty
>> >> good... it's what I call a 'smoketest', not even a release candidate. I
>> >> try
>> >> to come out with smoketests once a week, and my hope was to get rc7
>> >> itself
>> >> out in ~2 weeks...
>> >>
>> >> but as we're lagging  the kernel development cycle by a little bit too
>> >> much (and some core trees are only just now coming online again) I'm
>> >> going
>> >> to slip a whole bunch of stuff out of rc7's roadmap.
>> >>
>> >> What I've been burning mental cycles on - is that now that I'm
>> >> relatively
>> >> happy with the wireless performance and overall stability/features - is
>> >> trying to improve the gateway AQM system to suck a little less. Which
>> >> is
>> >> proving to be hard. And also improving wireless latency further using a
>> >> sane
>> >> classifier with QFQ - which is also proving to be hard although I have
>> >> more
>> >> of a grip on that at the moment.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, don't expect miracles from cero yet! Bloated queues move to
>> >> your
>> >> laptop, and upstream links - which are also bad places for them! -
>> >> fixing
>> >> your laptop is relatively easy - upstream link harder - you have to fix
>> >> bloat everywhere you can.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Shane Turner <turner at chebucto.ns.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a neglected WNDR3700v2 at home, still in the box, waiting to be
>> >>> flashed and tested with. Which firmware did you choose in the end?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-jffs2-factory.img
>> >>> or
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/rc7-smoketests/rc7-smoketest8/openwrt-ar71xx-generic-wndr3700v2-squashfs-factory.img
>> >>>
>> >>> In what way did you deviate from the procedure at
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Cerowrt_flashing_instructions
>> >>> to get it working? Did you have to rename the file? Did you have to
>> >>> flash to
>> >>> OpenWRT first?
>> >>>
>> >>> Shane
>> >>>
>> >>> On November-03-11 12:30:05 AM, Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Maxim Kharlamov wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> What I ended up doing is:
>> >>>>> 1. did 30-30-30 reset (described, for instance, here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/18623/How-to-Hard-Reset-Your-NETGEAR-WNR3500L/)
>> >>>>> 2. flashed OpenWRT using netgear web gui (it shows a warning but
>> >>>>> allows
>> >>>>> to
>> >>>>> continue)
>> >>>>> 3. another 30-30-30
>> >>>>> 4. flashed CeroWRT from OpenWRT gui
>> >>>>> 5. profit!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm up!  Thanks, Max!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I was unable to load the CeroWRT code from the OpenWRT GUI, but was
>> >>>> able to reset the router then TFTP the image in.
>> >>>>
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>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Thanks,
>> > Max
>> >
>> >
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