[Bloat] ultrafast broadband conference june 27-30

[Jonathan Morton]

> On 18 Jun, 2016, at 13:20, Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> These buffers are not inherent to the link technology.
>> If they were, we’d be calling for different link technology.
> 
> Thanks for confirming my suspicions. But this is exactly what Dave was
> doing, since he blamed the uplink bloat on "g.fast technologies".
> 
> So it seems that you and I agree that it's not G.fast itself that is
> bloated, but the lack of proper buffer management in certain (most?) DSL
> modems, regardless of whether they support G.fast or some other flavour
> of DSL.

Right.  We’re hoping that G.fast, being a new link technology, has taken on board some of the extensive research into buffer sizing and management, in typical device implementations.  But we’re not holding our breath - the industry is rather stubborn on this point.

 - Jonathan Morton