[Bloat] fixing bufferbloat in 2017

[Sebastian Moeller]

> On Nov 23, 2016, at 19:09, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2016, David Lang wrote:
> 
>> Deploy what we already know to work on the real edge devices and things get vastly simpler.

	One problem will be that the actual edge devices are often ISP supplied and hence extremely cost sensitive; combined with increasing bandwidth in many ISP offerings, having  CPEs that can perform ingress shaping at “modern” rates looks challenging if the same CPEs also need to be very cheap. Egress shaping is a different kettle of fish though and for most asymmetric plans the CPE either should have enough punch or might be amendable to a BQL-like solution that could e actually relatively computationally cheap. But for that to happen we would need to convince ISPs and/or CPE chipset manufacturer (or better those engineers that create the drivers for the SDKs).

> 
> Sure! Sounds Great. How?

	Getting a big ISP on board would already be a great start, if combined with a tiny bit of PR…?

Best Regards
	Sebastian


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