[Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348

Michael Richardson mcr at sandelman.ca
Wed Apr 4 15:23:46 EDT 2018

Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
    > How dead is posix these days? Ietf does not generally do apis well.

I disagree.

IETF has lore says that it doesn't do APIs well, and so it's a
self-fullfiling prophecy.  Everyone knows it's true without any actual
evidence, so nobody tries.

Who does do APIs well today?  Microsoft's API story is a disaster,
so despite decades of market dominance, their networking APIs are not
defacto standard.  While it looks like Linux does APIs well, actually,
it just does a really good job at getting the public APIs implemented.

The IPv6 BSD sockets API is a roaring success.
It's just not enough given MIF, DNSSD, IPsec, LISP, etc.  The problem
space has expanded.

The problem is getting API work funded across Google, Apple, MS, *BSD,
and Linux.

]               Never tell me the odds!                 | ipv6 mesh networks [
]   Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works        | network architect  [
]     mcr at sandelman.ca  http://www.sandelman.ca/        |   ruby on rails    [

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