[Bloat] Fwd: Long Now Talk: Nadia Eghbal, The Making and Maintenance of our Open Source Infrastructure on 11/17/20

Fri Oct 30 13:13:25 EDT 2020

Although IMHO nadia has overfocused on the javascript infrastructure rather
than all the C and kernel stuff that runs as root, I am really happy with
much of what she's published so far. I don't know if there will be a Q&A
session on this talk.

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Eghbal sees open source code as a form of public infrastructure that
requires maintenance, and that offers us a model through which to
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*James Nestor*
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