[Bloat] How about a topical LWN article on demonstrating the real-world goodness of CAKE?

[Anthony Minessale II]

Still willing to host a call on SignalWire Work if you want to check it out.
I barely use this email addr so I keep forgetting to check it.


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 12:09 PM Jonathan Morton <chromatix99 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> > On 8 Sep, 2020, at 7:48 pm, Matt Mathis via Bloat <
> bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> >
> > To be simplistic, you might just talk about cake vs (bloated) drop
> tail.  To be thorough, you also need to make the case that cake is better
> than other AQMs.  This feels like too much for LWN, but silence on other
> solutions might trigger skeptics.
>
> Personally, my position is:
>
> 1: Bloated dumb FIFOs are terrible.
>
> 2: Basic AQM is good.  This can be as simple as TBF+WRED; it solves a
> large part of the basic problem by eliminating multi-second queue delays.
> In some cases this can solve very serious problems, such as DNS lookups
> failing when the link is loaded, quite adequately.  Properly configured,
> you can keep queue delays below the 100ms threshold for reasonable VoIP
> performance.
>
> 3: FQ-AQM is better.  That generally means HTB+fq_codel, but other forms
> of this exist.  It means essentially zero added delay for non-saturating
> flows.  It's an easy way to make DNS, VoIP and online gaming work nicely
> without having to restrict data-hungry applications.
>
> 4: Cake offers some extra tools and aims to be easier (more intuitive) to
> configure.  Currently, it is the best solution for slow and medium-speed
> broadband (up to 100Mbps), and can also be used at higher speeds with some
> care, mostly regarding device performance.
>
>  - Jonathan Morton
>
>

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