[Bloat] Measuring 5G Bloat (Was 5G going south)

[Livingood, Jason]

FWIW - I'm working with a few measurement networks and researchers that are very soon deploying measurement probes - in the US - on 5G fixed wireless access connections and LEO (Starlink). These probes range on the low end from RIPE Atlas to higher end RPi-based probes. If you are interested in hosting one of these probes email me OFF-LIST:
- Your name 
- Your shipping address
- Your ISP name [FWA or LEO]

Some of these researchers are ready to ship probes in a couple of weeks and I'll have a bunch of RIPE Atlas probes ready to ship in about a month.

Thanks!
Jason

On 10/28/22, 17:10, "Bloat on behalf of jf--- via Bloat" <bloat-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

    We’ve observed growing variability on some TMHI setups from our fleet, and it seems there is a correlation to usage growth on a single tower. Seems neighbors talk to hear other after all ;-)

    And yes, horrible bufferbloat on these variable capacity links.

    > The author switched to verizon, but what guarantees of continued
    > reliability does one have?

    It seems none ATM, as it really depends on user density vs tower capacity. Woe to those that share a tower with a busy highway, ‘rush hour’ likely means low capacity and even higher latencies.

    Cheers,

    Jonathan Foulkes


    > On Oct 27, 2022, at 11:37 PM, Dave Taht via Bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
    > 
    > This had some details as to the things that could go wrong from an
    > initial happy install of t-mobile, to something terrible.
    > 
    > The author switched to verizon, but what guarantees of continued
    > reliability does one have?
    > 
    > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://blog.networkprofile.org/redundant-wan-ditching-t-mobile-5g-for-verizon-5g/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!DZPmyvCVso3V5VJsCmkvtzgtr5uBLoBSFpjGmKungaWqn5HKuLeCMgmCPiPY0rYPhiQN3Dl6jLyoUia5Gx94K7-U5YFaQA$  
    > 
    > (both services had horrible bufferbloat)
    > 
    > 
    > -- 
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