[Bloat] [Cake] Two questions re high speed congestion management anddatagram protocols

[Dave Taht]

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-ccwg/

is a new wg intended to poke into these issues

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 4:49 PM Stephen Hemminger via Cake
<cake at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 12:47:01 -0700 (PDT)
> David Lang <david at lang.hm> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, David P. Reed via Bloat wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry for top posting, but ... Bigger question:
> > > Why would DCCP be deprecated by Linux kernel?
> > > Who makes that decision? Who argues against it?
> >
> > Linus or the networking maintaners make the decision.
> >
> > Usually things get pulled from the kernel because there are updates that need to
> > be made to the code (to match changes elsewhere in the kernel or because of
> > security issues) and there isn't a maintainer who works on the code in a
> > resonable time. This means that the maintainers for the general code area (in
> > this case networking maintainers) will need to do extra work in an area they
> > aren't that interested in (and, especially in the case of hardware, may not have
> > the ability to test). They do some of it, especially if it's commonly used, but
> > eventually either another maintainer steps up, or it goes away
> >
> > David Lang
>
> See https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20230614194705.90673-3-kuniyu@amazon.com/
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