[Bloat] [NNagain] massively less drafty FCC NOI response on raising the broadband standard speeds

[Dave Taht]

I would love an iperf2 example plot(s) (bad vs good) that a c-suiter
could understand in appendix B.

I am still smarting from how incorrectly this plot was interpreted.

https://github.com/cilium/cilium/issues/29083#issuecomment-1824676409


On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:24 PM rjmcmahon <rjmcmahon at rjmcmahon.com> wrote:
>
> I think I'm being schedule to present iperf 2 to the FCC TAC sometime in
> January 2024. I'll know more soon.
>
> I plan to have a hands on session, going over
>
> o) WiFi/Broadband key latency technologies
> o) Iperf 2 tooling and metrics, including bloat (in units of memory)
> o) A WiFi diagnostics latency panel from a chip perspective
> o) Suggested actions the FCC TAC can take to facilitate better in home
> wireless networks to support low latency needs of all Americans
>
> The assumption is they realize that low latency is long overdue and that
> solutions are in the realm of today's engineering and, of course,
> nature's physics.
>
> Bob
> > I would like to thank everyone that lept into making a contribution to
> > this document today! It is in much better shape than it was yesterday.
> > 2 days to go!!!
> >
> > Please comment on the document here:
> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit
> >
> > If you like where the document is going, please put in your signature.
> > I will submit a final draft for global review a few hours before the
> > deadline.
> >
> > I would also like to humbly thank Steve Crocker for contributing $500
> > to the gofundme drive for this effort. Steve is the author of the very
> > first RFC[1], which defined the processes by which the Arpanet and
> > internet were defined and refined, to this day. He made many other
> > fundamental contributions along the way. RFC1's history is well worth
> > reviewing:
> >
> > https://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2015/04/46-years-of-rfcs-celebrating-the-anniversary-of-rfc-1/
> >
> > I am hoping our efforts here, this week, lay a foundation for a much
> > better internet moving forward!
> >
> > A huge thanks to all the other donors to date also! Aside from
> > gratitude I do not know what to say.  I sent "Tanya" my last "this
> > machine kills vogons" sticker, but I have new one - since I have
> > mellowed - that says "This Machine CURES Vogons"  - would anyone want
> > one of these?), bringing the sum to a magical $1111 as I write. This
> > is more than enough for a press release! When we did the successful
> > make-wifi-fast fcc fight, we also brought on board a media manager,
> > did some outreach, and my uni (karstaad) threw in for a plane ticket
> > to fly to Washington, and the total cost was about 12k all told.
> > Presently I plan to focus on getting a good document in by the
> > deadline, with as many signatures as possible, and do PR later.
> >
> > gofundme link: https://gofund.me/c1f3ad18
> >
> > PS I would also like to thank "robert" for throwing in $250 (via other
> > means), although I am not sure if he was throwing in to keep the flent
> > fleet alive or this effort.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 4:42 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is so drafty that normally I would not be distributing it this
> >> early, but family matters have intruded overmuch (in a good way, I
> >> hope everyone had a great thanksgiving!!) and the Dec 1 deadline is
> >> looming..
> >>
> >> Co-authors (and commentors) desired! I primarily wanted to hit
> >> latency, latency under load, bufferbloat, as usual, as well as MTBF
> >> and MTTR as well as how complex networks are, . Just three pages, +
> >> repeatable experiments in the appendix, so at least those are in the
> >> public record. Cite the bitag latency report, and this cloudflare
> >> piece, especially:
> >>
> >> https://blog.cloudflare.com/making-home-internet-faster/
> >>
> >> Anyway the far too drafty draft is here:
> >>
> >> https://docs.google.com/document/d/19ADByjakzQXCj9Re_pUvrb5Qe5OK-QmhlYRLMBY4vH4/edit?usp=sharing
> >>
> >> In terms of things not flowing for me the concept of equating the need
> >> for more bandwidth as a solution to everything... to the "chewbacca
> >> defense" is entertaining but possibly not useful. People are already
> >> telling me the conclusion is too strong, and it's 4:30 AM, and I am
> >> going back to bed.
> >>
> >> Please comment there, and not here. Thanks for any spare brain cells
> >> you might have! gnight.
> >>
> >> --
> >> :( My old R&D campus is up for sale: https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab
> >> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos



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Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos